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Original Message 1/12             10-Feb-03  @  09:34 AM   -   What Scale For Trance?

Dominic

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Seriously though, what scales do you guys use when writing tracks? I'm bored of the Dorian now. Any other scales work better?



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Message 2/12             10-Feb-03  @  02:00 PM   -   RE: What Scale For Trance?

Dominic

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please.



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Message 3/12             10-Feb-03  @  03:35 PM   -   RE: What Scale For Trance?

Steve Roughley

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Well, I write house and proghouse and all of my tracks are written upon the bass and the drums, so I allways use a scale that works best for my bass. I find that the best scale is G# (A flat) natural, or melodic, minor. It just seems to create that 'house' feel.

Regards.

Steve.



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Message 4/12             10-Feb-03  @  03:44 PM   -   RE: What Scale For Trance?

Dominic

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Cheers for the response Steve. Is this the melodic minor scale you use in Ab then ?

"A, B, C, D, E, F#, G#"



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Message 5/12             10-Feb-03  @  11:54 PM   -   RE: What Scale For Trance?

Steve Roughley

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That's the one. As it is primarily used with guitars (mostly Jazz I think) it works a treat if you base your track around the bassline, which most dance producers do.

Steve.



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Message 6/12             11-Feb-03  @  07:23 AM   -   RE: What Scale For Trance?

BJT

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Diatonic, Pentonic, Chromatic, what else do you need?



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Message 7/12             11-Feb-03  @  08:10 AM   -   RE: What Scale For Trance?

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Not sure what it's called, but I call it the "Ozric Scale." It's nice for goa-esque leads and such. In A:

A, Bb, Db, D, E, F, Ab, A.

Also fiddle around with that Ab, changing it to a G every now and then. The main difference is whether you want the dominant chord (E) to be major or minor.



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Message 8/12             12-Feb-03  @  04:23 AM   -   RE: What Scale For Trance?

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look, I've said it loads of time, but....fuck it, I'll say it once more. When it comes to keys, and scale and shit, there is no "winner for the hits" scale. In fact, if you'd simply learn the rules, you'd learn how to break them, and then you'd learn that there is not wrong note, as long as you resolve it correctly. Study the old stuff. It will then teach you how to learn the new stuff, and then teach you how to step beyond the new stuff and into just doing YOUR stuff.


Ape



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Message 9/12             12-Feb-03  @  03:56 PM   -   RE: What Scale For Trance?

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Pongoid - cheers for killing my thread stone dead mate! :-) (he, he, he)



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Message 10/12             14-Feb-03  @  12:15 AM   -   RE: What Scale For Trance?

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Like I say, you're trying to make science out of art. It's cool to undertand it, and be able to explain the tensions and resolutions as well as Psil does, but at teh end of the day it's all pretty much academic until you learn how to apply these things in your own contexts. Otherwise, you simply repeat what others have done. Let's face it: if somebody else has already done it, then somebody else has probably done it better, and that deserves study if it at all interests you, if only out of respect for your desire to improve yourself.


Ape



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