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Original Message                 Date: 07-Feb-04  @  09:58 PM   -   Firewire for PC? (828MKII)

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Im lookin at gettin a MOTU 828MKII to streamline my system even more (wont need a monitor mixer anymore, or heck, a patchbay even!) and am not sure what a good firewire PCI card to get is.

MOTU rec's against certain chips on the card, and says get either TI or...another one...

anyone have suggestions?




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Message 11/30             09-Feb-04  @  07:46 PM   -   RE: Firewire for PC? (828MKII)

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hehe... good luck. i think you stand a better chance since there's no pci card to cause problems.



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Message 12/30             10-Feb-04  @  01:45 AM   -   RE: Firewire for PC? (828MKII)

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firewire cards are PCI tho

seem less troublesome tho...dunno



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Message 13/30             10-Feb-04  @  06:06 AM     Edit: 10-Feb-04  |  06:08 AM   -   RE: Firewire for PC? (828MKII)

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The problem with MOTU is that they won't admit a problem when they have it. I did tons of research on the issue of our PCI-324 (interface card for a MOTU 1212) not showing up on the spankin' new built-for-gigasampler-PC we have at the studio where I work. The regular old Wave driver just wouldn't load, and even though Giga *kinda* worked without it (using GSIF drivers that did load correctly), it was flaky as hell. Anyway, nowhere on the MOTU site is it mentioned that PCI Post Write needs to be disabled in the BIOS for PCI-324 cards to work at all... I had to find that out through forums. Now, this problem has been around since the 2408 MK1, and is apparently well-known among MOTU users, so isn't it a little BULLSHIT not to have any mention of it from the company??

The worst part is the motherboard we got at work didn't even HAVE the option to turn of PCI post write, so fixing the problem would have required no less than a total software hack job. Out with that mobo, in with the new.

It's nearly as hard to find official information on their parallel port MIDI interface issue that has plagued them forEVER.

Rant over, point being don't ever trust MOTU when it comes to compatibility issues with PCs. But when you do the workarounds and get them to work, the general consensus (myself included) is that they are stable as fuck and sound amazing. Pro when it works, annoying when it doesn't.



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Message 14/30             10-Feb-04  @  02:23 PM   -   RE: Firewire for PC? (828MKII)

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I agree with that. MOTU still think that it's 1990 and the only way to make music on the computer is with a Mac. And they still think it's OK to have a week's turnaround time on email support. I wound up selling my 2408 for these reasons. It worked for about a week, and then I started getting little pops in all my audio. After a couple weeks of back and forth (like 2 whole messages from MOTU in 3 weeks) I ditched it for a Frontier WaveCenter. Buh-bye...

However, I will say that their MIDI Timepiece is the bomb and I'll never use another kind of MIDI Interface.



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Message 15/30             11-Feb-04  @  08:51 AM   -   RE: Firewire for PC? (828MKII)

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hercules - also I dont know 'em, but ETCETERA I doubt would take on a crap product - we had a brief chat about it and they said it's a rocking product works well.... and why not... a few years back Hoontech were nobody's.

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Message 16/30             11-Feb-04  @  10:43 AM   -   RE: Firewire for PC? (828MKII)

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I dont even know the shop, tho, and sadly my experience is that most of em are purely interested in sales, regardless of true results. sad.

actually found an 828mkii for $500. Stupid low, so...hopefully it pans out.



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Message 17/30             11-Feb-04  @  11:30 AM   -   RE: Firewire for PC? (828MKII)

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hercules... maybe its a rocking product but i see no volume knob except for headphones???



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Message 18/30             11-Feb-04  @  06:42 PM   -   RE: Firewire for PC? (828MKII)

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might be like the MOTU...dual purpose pot for mains and phones. Push to switch



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Message 19/30             11-Feb-04  @  06:57 PM   -   RE: Firewire for PC? (828MKII)

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maybe... to be honest, i really dont understand what took manufacturers so long to catch up to the fact that a lot of ppl only want an adio interface in their studio, without additional mixer... but it looks like they're coming at last. gotta get me something ismmilar one day... *sigh*



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Message 20/30             11-Feb-04  @  07:45 PM     Edit: 11-Feb-04  |  08:16 PM   -   RE: Firewire for PC? (828MKII)

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What did you hear about the Presonus you didn't like? I'm looking at them (drooling over the upcoming FirePod)

-Craig



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