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Original Message 1/11 09-Jun-03 @ 08:28 AM - snap?

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I am a tad confused. What is the difference between D Dorian and D minor?

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Message 2/11 09-Jun-03 @ 08:51 AM Edit: 09-Jun-03 | 08:52 AM - RE: snap?

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check this

it's an old thread so make sure you select to show posts from 365 days back.

psy

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Message 3/11 09-Jun-03 @ 10:31 AM - RE: snap?

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Ta alot. But I know that D Dorian is a mode of C (or something along those lines)but the Dorian mode and the D minor use the same notes so what's the difference? Do teachers use the "modes of C" just to teach us about music theory?

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Message 4/11 09-Jun-03 @ 03:00 PM Edit: 09-Jun-03 | 03:04 PM - RE: snap?

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Close but no cigar man.. D Dorian and D minor are different.

D dorian is:

D E F G A B C D

D minor (natural minor) is:

D E F G A Bb C D

Do you understand what a mode is? Simply put, a mode is just its' relative major scale started on a different note. D dorian, E Phrygian, F Lydian, G Mixolydian, A Aeolian and B Locrian are all modes of C major. So, D dorian, E Phrygian, F Lydian, G Mixolydian, A Aeolian (natural Minor) and B Locrian are all made up of the same notes (the notes of the C scale), just started on different degrees. E Phrygian is a C major scale "started on" E:

E F G A B C D E

D minor isn't relative to C. To find out relative minor scales look at the 6th degree of a major scale (A, in the case of C). To find relative major scales, look at the 3rd degree of the minor scale (F, in the case of D min).

Hope this was educational (and correct)

-Craig

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Message 5/11 10-Jun-03 @ 08:36 AM - RE: snap?

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Thanks for that Craig. Makes a bit more sense now. I don't know if any of you muckers has this but I have to write all my tracks in the key of A minor cos my bass synths only sound good from G1 up to around C2. Any higher or lower and it either sounds to subby/flabby or to high and thin.

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Message 6/11 10-Jun-03 @ 02:21 PM - RE: snap?

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Nope, perhaps you should reprogram a bit? Less suboscillator for the flabbiness, more for the thin sounds?

What synth is it?

-Craig

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Message 7/11 11-Jun-03 @ 05:26 AM - RE: snap?

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Remake your bass patches, or get a better synth.

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Message 8/11 11-Jun-03 @ 08:07 AM - RE: snap?

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Hehehe. Its the same with a virus, Logic es1 and es2 and a bass station. Not a JV2080 though. Hmmmmm.

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Message 9/11 11-Jun-03 @ 02:34 PM - RE: snap?

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You just have to spend a little more time programming. I've got a Virus and have no problem getting nice basses throughout the range.

-Craig

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Message 10/11 12-Jun-03 @ 08:50 AM - RE: snap?

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Yea but I thought the only way to determine/control the harmonics of a bass sound was to use the osc. When I raise or lower the pitch of these, isn't that the same as just moving the note in the sequencer up or down the range?

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Message 11/11 13-Jun-03 @ 02:49 PM - RE: snap?

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No, no.. The blending of the oscs creates harmonics too. If you're using a suboscillator in your patch and it sounds too flabby, try lowering the volume of the sub-osc, or try changing its shape to triangle.

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