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Subject: (Samplers for) techno - drums/construction
Original Message 1/29 15-May-00 @ 09:58 PM - (Samplers for) techno - drums/construction
Message 2/29 16-May-00 @ 06:41 AM - RE: (Samplers for) techno - drums/construction
first I downloaded this set of drum beats from a3k central called 'bigbeat drum kit'.. loaded in to my a3000. created a couple of nice rythms with it.. lots of kicks all over the shop.. I kept referencing it against the proper kick I'd be using in the track.
once I had two or three nice loops I resampled them in the a3000 as one 4 bar loop (that 3 loops altogether) not sampled at 44khz but 22khz and 10khz on this lo-fi setting the a3000 had (I think it's 8 bit or 12 bit).
then I triggered the loops from the a3000 one of them is lo-pass filtered just to get the throbbing bass. the other os hi-pass filtered and dephased for the trably floaty hi-hats
the whole thing is chucked through a tap-delay which has the bass rolled off so it don't clash with the main rythm... nice.. and it's a great basis for a track.
I'm also compressing the loops together. with the main kick to get that pumping techno sound. the hi-hat loops and proper hi-hats samples are going through distortion to bring out some of the hi-gher harmonics to lift them a bit.
can't stress how important eq balance is on a sound like this, you really need to chuck frequencies together and compress them, eq em to get the balance just right.. the result is that rolling deep bass sound you can allways hear in clubs and on tracks but you can never program straight.. it's a result of pushing stuff together.
erm that any help to ya? I sort of go off on one when it comes to techno rythms
Message 3/29 16-May-00 @ 06:43 AM - RE: (Samplers for) techno - drums/construction
three separate 1 bar loops.
so I could see which ones worked best filtered which way.. (lopass, hipass, band pass, twin dip pass etc etc..)
Message 4/29 16-May-00 @ 11:28 AM - RE: (Samplers for) techno - drums/construction
Message 5/29 16-May-00 @ 05:48 PM - RE: (Samplers for) techno - drums/construction
Chris...
Message 6/29 16-May-00 @ 05:49 PM - RE: (Samplers for) techno - drums/construction
Chris...
Message 7/29 17-May-00 @ 04:45 AM - RE: (Samplers for) techno - drums/construction
Firstly get yourself down to www.a3kcentral.com and go to the samples section. Download the two files called bigbeat1 and bigbeat2 these two files can be saved to two floppies and then loaded into your sampler as 1 sound bank.
Tell you what, If I can get my connection at home working I'll upload the midi file I used to create the rythm with bigbeat using the midi thingy here... but I aint promising cos my phone has developed this really bad line noise which is affecting my connection.
Message 8/29 17-May-00 @ 04:45 AM - RE: (Samplers for) techno - drums/construction
when you've got a nice pattern going what you do is press rec on the sampler, by default it will be set to record whatever is playing on the stereo outs.. this is supposed to have a max polyphony of 4 notes (on the a3000) but in practice it seems more. If you press the (doing this from memory btw :P ) sample button it will take you to the recording options, here you can set things like sample frequency etc, changing the frequency while the pattern (from the seq) is playing will let you hear how the different settings sound..
using 22khz lo-fi/11 khz lo-fi/8 khz lofi is great for loops cos they won't take over the mix and sound too clean.. basically set the sequencer to play the pattern once, press the program button to take you to the record page and press record, play the pattern and the sample is recorded.. now if you press audition the loop you have just sampled will play... if your happy change the freq to 11khz and press rec again, play and the second loop will be recorded... etc.
Message 9/29 17-May-00 @ 04:47 AM - RE: (Samplers for) techno - drums/construction
try putting a 22khz loop through the comp/overdrive effect with these setting on the effect (slow attack/fast release/-30db/whatever ratio sound good/up the output to around 100) = techno!
I never use the loopremix myself - it's good mind but I get a real kick out of crafting my own stuff.. good for messing your own stuff up though and vocals.. the loop-divide is pure class.. cuts up a loop and maps it automatically.. here's a tip - create a loop and overdrive it, resample it, loop-divide it, create a new loop from that... etc, etc, etc.. eventually you have something that just sounds so fucked up completely yours.
Message 10/29 17-May-00 @ 04:47 AM - RE: (Samplers for) techno - drums/construction
try putting a 22khz loop through the comp/overdrive effect with these setting on the effect (slow attack/fast release/-30db/whatever ratio sound good/up the output to around 100) = techno!
I never use the loopremix myself - it's good mind but I get a real kick out of crafting my own stuff.. good for messing your own stuff up though and vocals.. the loop-divide is pure class.. cuts up a loop and maps it automatically.. here's a tip - create a loop and overdrive it, resample it, loop-divide it, create a new loop from that... etc, etc, etc.. eventually you have something that just sounds so fucked up completely yours.
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