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Subject: Trance Drums
Original Message 1/13 05-Jun-00 @ 12:35 PM - Trance Drums
Steve
Message 2/13 09-Jun-00 @ 07:06 AM - RE: Trance Drums
The snares are layered snares, you have the initial 909 type punch snare at the begining then the tail has the extra length that gives the snare its drive, oh shit this makes no sense, it sounded good in my head right?
Basically try and make snares that no "Dsh" at the beginning then an extra "shh" at the end, they can also be compressed (ratio 5, attack 5, release 80-100)to give them the sort of breathing effect......
Message 4/13 09-Jun-00 @ 09:44 AM - RE: Trance Drums
Message 5/13 09-Jun-00 @ 09:52 AM - RE: Trance Drums
steve
Message 6/13 09-Jun-00 @ 06:51 PM - RE: Trance Drums
In Cubase I think it would be a heay shuffle, basically it's the classic house pattern, but used in Progressive House/Euro Trance at a slightly faster Tempo.
Message 7/13 10-Jun-00 @ 07:40 AM - RE: Trance Drums
Also don't forget delay, try having subtle rhythmic delays on bass sounds (subtle as in its not prominent but you know it's there)
Thirdly and finally its all down to percussion.
Message 8/13 13-Jun-00 @ 09:18 PM - RE: Trance Drums
do you really mean the snare is actually off on the 2,4.. or that there is some other grace snare notes before or after the 2/4 beats?, like a shuffle or swing or something to the beats ??.., they use lots of different beats, a real braod cross section with lots of different fx on tracks, and there's sometimes rimshots and claps layered in eq's underpatterns reinforcing the kis and snares, plus other samples, with reverb fx on sometimes, delay feedback fx , layered beats like on 'Superstring' which has got like a layered samba-type pattern etc, there's delays at work sometimes subtley on kiks....
but if you mean the snares are just dropped on the 2 and 4 behind the beat, i cant hear that on any sasha/digweed comps ive heard it's smak on the beat to me...
Message 9/13 15-Jun-00 @ 05:35 PM - RE: Trance Drums
I think the point about Sasha and Digweed's style is that it sort of has a groove, whereas trance tends to be more mechanical.
Message 10/13 16-Jun-00 @ 02:20 AM - RE: Trance Drums
house/trance grooves often have a snare/clap on the beat, as well as a little clap/rim/snare/whatever juuust before the beat. you get use a 16F for that (i think, will have to try it). sounds almost like a flam.
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