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Original Message Date: 10-Mar-06 @ 10:28 PM - recording guitar

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hey psy, what would get the better result:

recording heavily distorted electric guitar with a sm57 ---> m610

or

AKG C414 ---> 610

or both?

any suggestions?

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Message 11/16 17-Mar-06 @ 05:23 AM - RE: recording guitar

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and another in the "sorry i didn't think of it" category... you can put a 414 right up on the grill with a 57 with a 10 or 20 dB pad on no problem. You won't damage it... it can take the SPL's.

that is... how loud were you tracking?

and were you panning the close and far mic? Why?

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Message 12/16 20-Mar-06 @ 11:57 PM - RE: recording guitar

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I could not use the 610 unfortunately... there is a ground hum problem with my power outlets or something is wrong with the 610... I get a low, 50 - 60 hz hum whenever I plug the 610 in. I need to check the wiring inside the location or figure out why I'm getting the hum with only the 610.

The room sounds good. Real vibrant sound. The C-414 sounds great. Room mic or acoustic guitar, it works great. I didnt get any great results from recording electric guitar tho. Even in a smaller room.

The reamp thing you suggests sounds interesting... a lot of extra work. I'd rather get all the product when recording it. Avoids mucking around while tracking. Which slows me down. Do you do this as post-production or tracking?

Recording electric seems to require a great amount of expertise. I couldnt imagine how long it takes to understand the relationship of microphones, amp, distance, etc, when recording. I honestly beleive a condenser/ribbon mic will give me the sound to blend with the sm57. I think I could get the better sound by having say: 4 mics to work with... blending, etc...

The 7-string is very low... a low A on the 7 string almost sounds like muddy-ass through a SM57 without eq'ing. The 57 did work but I feel the condenser mic would bring out the 7-string. I couldnt imagine what a warm old Neumann would sound like.

on the panning question: I set the mics up, as if I was miking a stereo kit or just in stereo. If it sounds good in stereo, it should sound okay in mono. I multitracked (2 tracks) into one mono. Hence I'll have to do this a little different next time. As I had phase issues with the 57/c414 combo!

Anyhow, I relistened to the track and I liked the result I got... very dark. the growl. I wish the 610 was thrown into the mix, but the hum was too apparent with distortion.

It's been fun.

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Message 13/16 22-Mar-06 @ 02:03 AM - RE: recording guitar

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was playing our bassists seven string today. He's got an Epiphone 7 string les-paul (!) didnt even know such a thing existed!. He's also got a Sunn rig.. all valve.. which is humungously large and 'rock looking'

it's got asn interesting sound. He's got it going thru an orange 4x12 at the moment - we're going to d some recording at some point cos i just built the system for him. and we're going to do a tutorial session or two to get him into the swing of multitracking with Logic... should be fun

cor i tell you... you wanna see this system i built him man... he spent some cash and it is so flippin quiet! even with optional 2 case fans running it's a whisper (and the room it's in has no absorbing carpet to mask the noise. it's solid basement tiled floor & plaster walls) He just added a 17" LG screen today and the whole system inc keyboard is silver & black ..lol.. it does look well cool.. that screen btw is fantastic.. really nice and has a simple step-thru button to switch display 'types' - 'night-text' is one.. and it flattens the contrast and brightness down to a level so that reading txt on a white page doesnt bore holes into your sockets in a dimly lit viewing environment... cool! - so there's 'profile' steps for various vonditions like that which u can step thru. I got it running at 1280 x 1024 75 hz and it looks loverly. I think it's 8ms response time.. dot isnt mega high but the image is really good for a cheap screen - i think he paid 160 ish at PC World.

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Message 14/16 22-Mar-06 @ 04:36 PM - RE: recording guitar

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wicked man!

I've never heard of a 7-String bass either; 7-string guitar only. Whats it play like? Can u play chords on it?

Sounds like a nice rig. What will you be recording it with? Sounds fun.

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Message 15/16 22-Mar-06 @ 08:31 PM - RE: recording guitar

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no no... he's bassist in the band i'm in but he's primarily a guitarist... the 7 string is a guitar.. not bass

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Message 16/16 23-Mar-06 @ 06:55 PM - RE: recording guitar

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ahh I see : -)

the Les Paul is very popular for studio work. It almost, definitley has the best 7-string sound.

Never heard of the Epiphone version.

badass: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Guitar/Electric?sku=517675

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