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Subject: what scale is this? - Pt_2
Original Message Date: 15-Apr-00 @ 08:53 AM - what scale is this? - Pt_2
Message 11/29 15-Apr-00 @ 11:01 PM - RE: what scale is this? - Pt_2
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The scale or key is usually an agreed on convention by the musicians performing a piece before the performance of the piece begins, at least in my experience. And usually those scales will be fairly conventional -- majors, minors and modes thereof. Granted some crusty old jazz guys might start playing a Bb Javanese, an A Pelog or an E Hindu (the three scales I posted in the last thread) if you're trying to sit in with them and they want to let you know you're not worthy.
Kid Dik, the best way to start out on this stuff is learn to play some songs. You learn by osmosis if you feel like you're actually playing music. Nobody should start out the journey worrying about the more complicated or esoteric theory behind modal improvisation or composing in modified scales. You pick stuff up as you go along. Maybe take some lessons. There's a reason piano teachers start kids off with "Chopsticks" and not Scriabin.
I don't think keyboard makers are going to get away from the current key layout any time soon. Millions of people have come to terms with those black keys and you can too.
I started in a basement punk bands in the early '80s playing bass & guitar knowing a moveable major scale and 2 forms of barre chords. And everything I've picked up in the meantime has come through nice people showing me things (and correcting me), reading and experimenting. I've been involved with music semi-professionally since '84 and almost everyone I've had the pleasure to work with shares up their knowledge unconditionally. Only a few would choose to belittle people they felt weren't as far along the journey as themselves. We've got a name for that sort of person, now don't we. Oh, and anyone who tells you they're figured everything out is lying. You stop learning about this stuff when you die.
BTW, in a Keyboard mag interview in the early '90s, one of the guys in Coldcut said something along the lines of "We've found that if you put three fingers on white keys, each one separated by a white key, they make this thing called a chord. But that's about as far as we want to go with that." Draw your own conclusion.
Message 12/29 15-Apr-00 @ 11:34 PM - RE: what scale is this? - Pt_2
Now that is a jorney I AM just beginning. Its also really why I'm learning the theory. I seems to my unmidified eyes that midi is really built around our western note system, and I do need to learn midi so...
Message 13/29 16-Apr-00 @ 12:38 AM - RE: what scale is this? - Pt_2
ok.. I fixed the 'not creating paragraphs' bit.. it now works like the other forums,.. just leave line breaks with a space between 'em to create paragraphs...
also due to Fannies request.. another octave is added... just see if it works ok first...
'dont want another domestic'... (that was funny i concede)
right, i'm just testing the added octave now.. so ignore
Message 14/29 16-Apr-00 @ 12:53 AM - RE: what scale is this? - Pt_2
Never the less, you have given your time, and many others have as well, and I thank you all. And just remember, anyone can stay young, so long as they think they can fly close to the sun.
Message 15/29 16-Apr-00 @ 03:10 AM - RE: what scale is this? - Pt_2
I still think more light and less heat would be helpful around here, which was kind of the point of my rambling post. Harmony, Annie, whatever you wanna be called, do you think you can post without somehow magically making yourself the topic?
Message 16/29 16-Apr-00 @ 03:12 AM - RE: what scale is this? - Pt_2
Message 17/29 16-Apr-00 @ 05:54 AM - RE: what scale is this? - Pt_2
Message 18/29 16-Apr-00 @ 02:31 PM - RE: what scale is this? - Pt_2
Message 19/29 17-Apr-00 @ 09:01 AM - RE: what scale is this? - Pt_2
Right, 1 question...it's all good 4 the harmony side but theory aslo includes rythm....nationalism aside, would it b more helpful 2 go the english or american way? We refer 2 notes as "brethe, minum, crotchet, quaiver...." americans call'em "full, half, quater, 8th, 16th...". What's the proportion of Europeans/Americans vistin DT? Issues like that realy piss me off I'm not gonna opt 4 the english sytem just bacause i was braught up here-music itself is an international language so there shouldnt b any confution inflicted by national boundries....
Well, concert A is 440Hz, at least we all agree on that....but what d'u think bout the rythms?
Message 20/29 17-Apr-00 @ 08:08 PM - RE: what scale is this? - Pt_2
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