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Original Message                 Date: 20-Jul-00  @  09:12 AM   -   Getting a groove

Gee

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A good groove is still eluding me, I think its because what I`m trying to do requires alot more skill.
How should a beginner approach making a Groove, the basics of the basics......I`m desperate to make an amazing groove that loops forever without me getting an impulse to smash the monitors, uh , lets not get carried away,......




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Message 11/21             24-Jul-00  @  03:16 AM   -   RE: Getting a groove

Gee

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Fantastic !!!I want to get my hands on one, hopefully soon...



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Message 12/21             24-Jul-00  @  03:21 AM   -   RE: Getting a groove

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I know, I know, it looks stupidly simple and it is. Have f# hold for a quarter note and gate the closed H.H. Record whatever you feel like adding on, in real time and quantize at 16 1/3. Step record later (if you do step), build slowly. Trust me, it's a good start. Sometimes when you don't have a groove it's good to give yourself a simple template to work off of, simplify. Go to the base of your idea. If you know the (or a) simple base to start from the rest is at your finger tips. If you don't like this one, make one for yourself. $0.02



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Message 13/21             24-Jul-00  @  06:10 AM   -   RE: Getting a groove

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oh baby!

a bit more expensive than I was hoping for though!

the tom triggers sound good though.



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Message 14/21             24-Jul-00  @  04:56 PM   -   RE: Getting a groove

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just use a small mic on each drum, if you got two tandy (radio-shak) PZM's, you can remove the plate and you're left with a tiny little mic.. you can fix that with epoxy resin blob inside the drum shell up by the head.

the =cable will trail out.. if you like you can cut the lead, and wire the two parts with a male & female XLR connector to be smart.. otherwqise those tandy PZM's have quite a long thin lead.

ok.. make sure you use 9V pp batteries (see TIPS & TRICKS section for why & how)... ok, then you need a BRAIN unit (which you'd have to buy anyways)... that is where the incoming voltage pulses coming from the mic get translated into midi velocity data, and you set the channel, note number etc... yamaha did an excellent one you can find second hand - those pzm's are like 25-30 quid each in the UK



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Message 15/21             24-Jul-00  @  05:48 PM   -   RE: Getting a groove

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what was the yamaha one called?

and how are you managing to get paragraphs? html?



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Message 16/21             25-Jul-00  @  04:53 PM   -   RE: Getting a groove

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Dont' you press the carriage return twice...

Anyway bongos sound cool but they cost money, especially the lion skin ones. So i can take it that making a groove with your teeth isn't enough. :P



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Message 17/21             25-Jul-00  @  06:02 PM   -   RE: Getting a groove

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I think k's referring to the Yamaha PMC-5 drum trigger converter. 8 xlr pad inputs, MIDI a+b outs, 5 notes max per trigger input, DX7 memory cartridges.
I haven't seen one around for a few years but it is a serious machine. The Akai drum trigger unit is worth about £90 and is far more common in the secondhand shops.



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Message 18/21             25-Jul-00  @  09:54 PM   -   RE: Getting a groove

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PAIA has a midi drum brain kit. I think you can use little piezos as triggers, too. That's what was in Simmons. A band I work with that toured some used Simmons (it was the 80s, OK) and we had a box full of Radio Shack piezos and we'd be gluing and soldering those things every couple nights in some crappy hotel roo.



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Message 19/21             25-Jul-00  @  11:03 PM   -   RE: Getting a groove

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damn, that wasn't much of an endorsement, was it?



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Message 20/21             26-Jul-00  @  08:13 AM   -   RE: Getting a groove

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soldering???????????

i'm there  

my lovely fumes



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