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Subject: Vocal samples?
Original Message Date: 14-Jun-00 @ 11:41 PM - Vocal samples?
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Message 31/84 12-Jul-00 @ 09:08 AM - RE: Vocal samples?
Go back to the original post. I can't even IMAGINE that my lyrics are already pre-written, pre-sung and out there just waiting for me to download. When I work my stuff, I'm delving in self-expression and not trying to just crank out some DJ product. If you don't craft your stuff as art, it isn't gonna be art. Period.
Message 32/84 12-Jul-00 @ 11:44 AM - RE: Vocal samples?
why are you using vocs anyway? this is DANCE music, and cheesy house/hardcore aside, there's no need for vocals... all they do is ruin the abstract nature of the music and in turn add the same subjective overtones that've plagued music for the past few decades... i say unless it's not recongnizable as a human voice, don't use it cause it really breaks the feeling....
then again this is just my humble opinion, but really aside from a few good examples (i.e i think it's called "comin back"... crystal method anyway) all vocals do is prop up what would otherwise be a lame, repetitive track (firestarter)... i just personally love the fact that popular music's finally getting abstract again... and i hate lame throw-backs who need to have a "message" in their music. i've never understood dance vocals...
Message 33/84 12-Jul-00 @ 11:59 AM - RE: Vocal samples?
y'all kick ass
pongoid & damballah do make art, i have heard at least 5 or 6 tracks out of each of them. not always was it as easily accessible as music that i would otherwise surround myself with (& often do) but that's probably just it then.
Message 34/84 12-Jul-00 @ 03:41 PM - RE: Vocal samples?
I actually understand both sides to this argument.
Justin
Again, what the hell does all of this have to do with music theory???
Message 35/84 12-Jul-00 @ 10:53 PM - RE: Vocal samples?
I have a day job. I can't play an instrument. I love music. I want to make some. I use a computer and synths. It's that simple. Now don't tell me I'm the only one here who fits that decsription.
Of course there's bad art. In order to have good art there's got to be some bad art too, right? Everybody thinks the music they are making is good art. So it's sad when people come in here and ask questions and they are met with bitterness and hosility. There's room for everybody. Pongoid, just relax, man. Get laid. It helps the creativity.
Message 36/84 14-Jul-00 @ 05:27 AM - RE: Vocal samples?
I see your point of view, myself I do not claim substantial music talents, you probably know alot more than me on the subjest. I am like Krisgot, I make music because I love it.
And as for the whole vocal thing, I just wanted to try new technigues to make my music better.
And I remind you, the only person that judges my music creativity and technigues is me and my friends, not you.
Message 37/84 14-Jul-00 @ 05:06 PM - RE: Vocal samples?
Peaceout,
Peter
Message 38/84 15-Jul-00 @ 05:14 AM - RE: Vocal samples?
I'd also recommend some classes on art theory starting around the beginning of the 1900's, as this seems to be where you lost the plot. Much interesting thought has happened since, and if you began to engage it, I'm sure your disposition would improve, along with the quality of your tracks.
No undue offense intended to you but I see you constructing mental barricades around yourself at all times, these barricades inhibit new thought from entering your person, which in turn, inhibits the outward flow of new thought. I know that you see your passion as your strong point, but really it comes across as insecurity. Seems as though that insecurity has got a hold of you my man, and won't let go. No manner of success in your music biz is going to assuage those feelings.
jj signing off:
begin barricade construction now! whoops, you've already started.
Message 39/84 15-Jul-00 @ 10:39 AM - RE: Vocal samples?
peace.
Message 40/84 16-Jul-00 @ 07:44 AM - RE: Vocal samples?
Had a very good response for you, but just erased it all when I went to type a capital w and hit control by mistake, so your reply will have to wait, but to make a long story short, dude you've got me all wrong. No hate here, just frustration. Barriers? Discuss that later. Art theory classes? Time? Insecurity, less than you think and more than you know. Maybe you should come to the AMF and we'll talk about it all face to face. Properly. As for Warhols and wankers, fuck them and their excuses.
Ape
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