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Subject: Why do people DJ live?
Original Message Date: 31-Mar-00 @ 04:38 AM - Why do people DJ live?
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Message 41/51 07-Jun-00 @ 05:46 PM - RE: Why do people DJ live?
Okay, let's say you take a little sculpture by one artist, and another from another artist, perhaps, laying one on top of another. It would be very hard to say simply 'installation by _(arranger's name)_' without acknowledging who the two 'arranged'pieces were in fact made by without being a considdered a completely egocentric fuckhead posing as some sort of artist wannabe. Now if hundreds of pieces were arranged in a way that all togther form a complete piece, with each piece contributing to the whole, each being a significant contibutor to the identity of a piece as a whole,that might be seen as a different case. I suppose it depends where you draw the line of contributing elements as individual pieces in their own rites. I would have a bit of a hard time worrying about the guy at the paint factory who mixed William Alexander's Prussian Blue while looking at it in another mundane still life of trees in front of mountains with ochre cliffs and pink sunset skies, painted by another bored nursing home patient, you know what I mean?
Now, if the piece consisted of a piece of hand beaten papyrus, splashed with some psychedelic insanity of a single colour of paint, that came completely textured with dust of mother of pearl, and obsidian slivers, I might be interested in the name of the guy that made the paint.
Did they cross the art line? Sounds like an argument of somantics.
Ape
Message 43/51 16-Jun-00 @ 11:52 AM - RE: Why do people DJ live?
Message 45/51 20-Jun-00 @ 01:35 AM - RE: Why do people DJ live?
i gots me a friend who begun djing `bout 12 months ago and has recently come down with what could be called discjock cranial imflamation( i.e he thinks he's good )
He claims that that art of djing beats the shit out of a live PA and that the only good producers are dj's.
I fuck around with me bedroom studio (which is practically nothing) and can't really make cool shit as yet. i kinda dj by numbers (find the exact bpm and shift by the speed control. roughly 1 tone = roughly 1 bpm. add or subtract. Only works for about 100-130 bpm and past there things go awry
meanwhile him with a bunch of other people productions in his all too trendy record bag gets to ponce around like the next supasta (spelt as is)
What the hell am i gonna tell him .... when i can't make anything good yet
i firmly belive that a live pa with your dat players and sequencers and mixers and whatnot has more creative control then 6 grams of vinyl on two tired ol 1200's and can rock the crowd more.
Would you rather see a live act then a dj ?
lets open the lines
first caller, you're on the air
Message 46/51 20-Jun-00 @ 08:14 AM - RE: Why do people DJ live?
Message 47/51 20-Jun-00 @ 07:52 PM - RE: Why do people DJ live?
Ape
Message 48/51 21-Jun-00 @ 03:02 AM - RE: Why do people DJ live?
Records take less work to play for people than electronic instruments. Also a more diverse range of sound is available from a smaller collection of things.
This is why people play records more often than gear.
Message 49/51 21-Jun-00 @ 08:11 AM - RE: Why do people DJ live?
Ape
Message 50/51 10-Jul-00 @ 08:41 PM - RE: Why do people DJ live?
WINS.
And now for some statistics pulled straight out of my ass, or rather, my perception.
About 5% of DJs deserve musical creativity credit.
These are the guys who are pulling on records so much that you don't even think about making requests, and these are the guys who are chucking them up at the lights and weird shit like that. Or, at the VERY least, it is their job to have some music that NO ONE else has yet, to be an ambassador. That's probably another 5%, and I respect their diligence.
About 90% of DJs enjoy the ignorance the public has with regard to the difference between reproduced and
produced music, and they prosper from it often, while musicians hide, away from society, zoning in on their art. Higher form of life? 90% of the time, yes.
Most DJs are just play-pushing pussy hounds. Please excuse my burst of righteousness.
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