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Original Message 1/16             24-Sep-98  @  01:21 AM   -   i hate to ask, but...

buggo

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...since the tx81z thingy fell through, and hilevelt was ragging on me about getting it anyway, what do you all think would be the best FM module to get assuming it's the only FM synth i'll have and i would like some multitimbrality? (not essential, but would be nice.) and i'm mostly gonna use it for bass.



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Message 2/16             24-Sep-98  @  02:30 AM   -   RE: i hate to ask, but...

xoxos

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never used an fm synth, but was it here or elsewhere i was reading how eno always goes back to the dx7?

xoxos.



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Message 3/16             24-Sep-98  @  02:31 AM   -   RE: i hate to ask, but...

xoxos

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admit it. you don't, really...

xoxos.



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Message 4/16             24-Sep-98  @  03:14 AM   -   RE: i hate to ask, but...

buggo

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eugh. i fucking hate ambient.



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Message 5/16             24-Sep-98  @  04:09 AM   -   RE: i hate to ask, but...

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Bug-why give up? if you really want a TX, find one...theyre all over...but be patient...
Youcould go for an FB01, too, which I think is just a smaller TX(?) with less presets (which most of which on the TX are pretty useless for your stuff anyway). check it out.



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Message 6/16             24-Sep-98  @  07:30 AM   -   RE: i hate to ask, but...

buggo

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well the guy called back and tells me he got the package and put it in the mail back to me...dumb shit, i told him not to...if it does get here, i'm so fucking sick of messing with it i'll pay the $125 and the shipping and have done with it.



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Message 7/16             24-Sep-98  @  12:19 PM   -   RE: i hate to ask, but...

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buggo... all i can say is... it does (FM) more than bass..... even at 2 hard house & trance gigs i've been to in the last week, there was mucho fm in there.... other poular sounds are... the mallet sounds, organs, fm percussion , the guitar-like sound... solid bass (and pitched up to midrange scales)...some of the rubber bass sounds etc etc.......



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Message 8/16             24-Sep-98  @  05:07 PM   -   RE: i hate to ask, but...

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one other one to consider (if you can get over the,
err, non-yamaha content) is the casio vz10m...i should
be getting one very soon. honestly, i never did much
with my tx81z (i hardly even turn it on, and i really
don't have that much stuff...)

first of all, it's 8 operator - that's more than
even the dx series! each operator can be 1 of 8
waveforms, i think there is sine, some tri/saws,
and some noise waveforms. they are split further
into pairs, each pair can phase modulate, ring modulate,
or mix with other pairs. i think the algorithms are
totally flexible as well. very powerful, more so than
even the dx-7 i would think. and, very similar to fm
from what i've heard....

it's digital, but much more "crisp" than anything
i've heard out of a tx81z...a friend has a vz8m (the
smaller version), and i heard some incredible sounds
come out of there, not just fm basses and weird
digital noises, but some normal stuff as well. the 10m
has a large LCD screen so you can SEE your envelopes,
etc. i think they might even have XLR outs....
it's 16 voice and 16 way multitimbral i think...(8m
half of both).

another possibility....these go real cheap because
of the "casio".....



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Message 9/16             24-Sep-98  @  05:16 PM   -   RE: i hate to ask, but...

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absolutely... the pahse distortion stuff they did was great... i mean casio by rights should have really done well, they were ahead of the feild in the early 80's... but the marketing was utter shite...... shame that... the cz101 & cz1000 are great cheap synths and controller in one... the cz101 particularly has 4 part multi max (using 1 osc' per voice - or 2 part using 2x2 etc).... and whilst small, like the basstation has large keys..... very handy portable and easy to find space for master keyboard cheap stylee.... thing about the fm is that there are those classic presets and sounds.... used already and so familiar to the punter... the dx100 has the biggest bunch of "I know that sound" presets....



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Message 10/16             25-Sep-98  @  03:22 AM   -   RE: i hate to ask, but...

buggo

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guitar stuff? that would be cool...can i get cool distorted industrial noises thru a distortion pedal or does it sound cack? (distortion's so fiddly that way...either it works perfect or it sounds shite...quite odd...)



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