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Subject: one time for all the cynics
Original Message 1/23 04-Dec-98 @ 10:31 PM - one time for all the cynics
for those that are new, i'd suggest catching up on some of the other threads to familiarize yourself with the points that have been previously made in this discussion. i doubt i will be able to resist responding to a comment or two, but i am not able to address the same points repeatedly.
how about we take this discussion into the concrete. i listened to the local hip hop station whilst i did the ironing today, and these are the tracks i heard. unfortunately, no one seems to play the cher track, so i still don't know what that's all about, but i can't imagine that it's really that awful, since several people mentioned that they enjoyed it.
first up. some song called 'touch it.' sleazy! sexy fun. especially appealing to budding sleazebags (little darlings that they are,) i should imagine. just a hint of tech to get that ivory tower thing going. the guy says something like 'jack knight and the corner house/all we want to do is make you bounce...' now what is mediocre about this track? this is quality sleaze fun. perfect, darkly seductive for the dark ones who need the darkness.
next track. puff daddy's 'i'll be missing you' obviously this is so incincere. he is a black rapper and obviously he has never encountered any form of grief in his life because his black rapper ego is immune to it. i secretly wish i was black. then my music wouldn't suck. i have now been absolutely sarcastic for one paragraph.
lovely track it was. for anyone feeling grief, it is highly accessible. what a friend.
next up. new track from will smith, the fresh prince, king of good clean healthy adolescent naughty fun. anyone out there remember his first album when it was new? what a great track! 'welcome to miami' perfect amount of 'pouty baby' in the vocals. irresistable. nice chorus! the lead is nicely aged. another excellent effort.
here's the clincher. pongoid, rarely does a day pass by when 'magick,' as you term it, does not touch my life. this next track was a true test of my tolerance for the pop vibe, just becaus ei especially tuned in to do this for you guys. i have never heard this track before; it must have been called 'tender love,' or something, and it was awful. i loved it. the producers obviously set out to write the cheesiest saccharine track they could. notice the repeated phrase, 'i surrender!' they even used this godawful cymbal crest break... like the worst lamest quiet storm track you could imagine.
i am dead serious here when i say the vibe was to test one's ability to simply enjoy the moment or break down and slag it. everything was set up to be as slaggable as possible. then the cheesy string pads come in. if you don't believe that music is written to produce such a reaction, then you have a lot to learn. it was a fun song. "i surrender!" ho ho ha ha! you simply have to laugh!
the next one went something like 'i never knew there was a love like this before/never had someone to show me a love like this...' the phrasing was a delight, lifting you up. anyone familiar with duke ellington's 'buffet flat?' how that part with the clarinets just takes you into the stratosphere? (for you young, young ones.. the tech was primitive.. but they still understood!) evocative old school guitar riff and simply delightful vocal harmonies. not stunning, but that would have been wrong for it. just.. pleasant!
okay fellers, i got my ironing done and then i had to run some errands. christmas traffic on a friday. almost every light i came to, i was stuck behind someone who just sat ther watching the vehicles from the opposite direction turn left without realizing that they are perfectly capable of merging into them since it's a three lane road.
so what could i do? get out of my car, walk ten cars up to them and pull them through their window and spank them? well that's a lot of spanking to do. i could have become really frustrated that i had to wait an extra four minutes at each light due to someone else's ineptitude. but i don't like being upset or unhappy, so i have learned not to promote that reaction.
now i have a 162 i.q., a large, dextrous and healthy body and whatever you think of me and my opinions, there will always be people in the world whose abilities are inferior to my own, and there will always be situations that are completely beyond my control. deciding to learn to accept this is perhaps the most intelligent thing i've ever done. you will probably decide that i am weak-spirited but the way i see life, there is a larger thing here to be understood. learning to "surrender" every now and then is, i believe, just the beginning.
may you have a 'magickal' day!
anyone else wish to 'cher?'
xoxos.
how about we take this discussion into the concrete. i listened to the local hip hop station whilst i did the ironing today, and these are the tracks i heard. unfortunately, no one seems to play the cher track, so i still don't know what that's all about, but i can't imagine that it's really that awful, since several people mentioned that they enjoyed it.
first up. some song called 'touch it.' sleazy! sexy fun. especially appealing to budding sleazebags (little darlings that they are,) i should imagine. just a hint of tech to get that ivory tower thing going. the guy says something like 'jack knight and the corner house/all we want to do is make you bounce...' now what is mediocre about this track? this is quality sleaze fun. perfect, darkly seductive for the dark ones who need the darkness.
next track. puff daddy's 'i'll be missing you' obviously this is so incincere. he is a black rapper and obviously he has never encountered any form of grief in his life because his black rapper ego is immune to it. i secretly wish i was black. then my music wouldn't suck. i have now been absolutely sarcastic for one paragraph.
lovely track it was. for anyone feeling grief, it is highly accessible. what a friend.
next up. new track from will smith, the fresh prince, king of good clean healthy adolescent naughty fun. anyone out there remember his first album when it was new? what a great track! 'welcome to miami' perfect amount of 'pouty baby' in the vocals. irresistable. nice chorus! the lead is nicely aged. another excellent effort.
here's the clincher. pongoid, rarely does a day pass by when 'magick,' as you term it, does not touch my life. this next track was a true test of my tolerance for the pop vibe, just becaus ei especially tuned in to do this for you guys. i have never heard this track before; it must have been called 'tender love,' or something, and it was awful. i loved it. the producers obviously set out to write the cheesiest saccharine track they could. notice the repeated phrase, 'i surrender!' they even used this godawful cymbal crest break... like the worst lamest quiet storm track you could imagine.
i am dead serious here when i say the vibe was to test one's ability to simply enjoy the moment or break down and slag it. everything was set up to be as slaggable as possible. then the cheesy string pads come in. if you don't believe that music is written to produce such a reaction, then you have a lot to learn. it was a fun song. "i surrender!" ho ho ha ha! you simply have to laugh!
the next one went something like 'i never knew there was a love like this before/never had someone to show me a love like this...' the phrasing was a delight, lifting you up. anyone familiar with duke ellington's 'buffet flat?' how that part with the clarinets just takes you into the stratosphere? (for you young, young ones.. the tech was primitive.. but they still understood!) evocative old school guitar riff and simply delightful vocal harmonies. not stunning, but that would have been wrong for it. just.. pleasant!
okay fellers, i got my ironing done and then i had to run some errands. christmas traffic on a friday. almost every light i came to, i was stuck behind someone who just sat ther watching the vehicles from the opposite direction turn left without realizing that they are perfectly capable of merging into them since it's a three lane road.
so what could i do? get out of my car, walk ten cars up to them and pull them through their window and spank them? well that's a lot of spanking to do. i could have become really frustrated that i had to wait an extra four minutes at each light due to someone else's ineptitude. but i don't like being upset or unhappy, so i have learned not to promote that reaction.
now i have a 162 i.q., a large, dextrous and healthy body and whatever you think of me and my opinions, there will always be people in the world whose abilities are inferior to my own, and there will always be situations that are completely beyond my control. deciding to learn to accept this is perhaps the most intelligent thing i've ever done. you will probably decide that i am weak-spirited but the way i see life, there is a larger thing here to be understood. learning to "surrender" every now and then is, i believe, just the beginning.
may you have a 'magickal' day!
anyone else wish to 'cher?'
xoxos.
Message 2/23 04-Dec-98 @ 11:14 PM - RE: one time for all the cynics
rouge
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to be honest. You sound depressed.
Message 3/23 04-Dec-98 @ 11:34 PM - RE: one time for all the cynics
Sounds like you're content with life. Doesn't get any better than that.
Cheers,
John
Cheers,
John
Message 4/23 05-Dec-98 @ 08:07 AM - RE: one time for all the cynics
buggo
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cynicism is the root of all humor.
humor is the foundation of the joy that i derive from existing.
cynicism must not be dismissed.
(fuck all y'all)
humor is the foundation of the joy that i derive from existing.
cynicism must not be dismissed.
(fuck all y'all)
Message 5/23 05-Dec-98 @ 12:01 PM - RE: one time for all the cynics
rouge
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I don't think he sounds content with life. He won't be content until everone likes the Smurfs. Back me up Xoxos. Oh yeah, Xoxos hasn't told you - he's not from this planet. He's actually come to destroy the world. What he is doing here is an experiment to learn about cultures of the earthling and the way they react in certain situations.
ME, well I am depressed.
ME, well I am depressed.
Message 6/23 05-Dec-98 @ 03:11 PM - RE: one time for all the cynics
No matter how cynical you get, it never enough.
Message 7/23 05-Dec-98 @ 03:33 PM - RE: one time for all the cynics
No matter how cynical you get, it never enough.
Message 9/23 06-Dec-98 @ 01:44 AM - RE: one time for all the cynics
cynic: one of a rigid sect of Greek philosophers (of which Diogenes was the most distinguished member) founded at Athens by Antisthenes, a pupil of Socrates, who insisted on the complete renunciation of all luxury and the subjugation of sensual desires; one who is habitually morose and sarcastic; one who is pessimistic about human nature Gr. kunikos kun- stem of kuon, a dog.
cynicism is not the root of all humour. at a flash, i'd say it's probably suffering that is, and cynicism is not the only possible reaction to suffering.
it's the old, old story of the iconoclast. be careful and don't get carried away. today's idol toppler lives in a world of broken shards tomorrow.
why porn? a rhetorical question.
xoxos. a rhetorical name.
cynicism is not the root of all humour. at a flash, i'd say it's probably suffering that is, and cynicism is not the only possible reaction to suffering.
it's the old, old story of the iconoclast. be careful and don't get carried away. today's idol toppler lives in a world of broken shards tomorrow.
why porn? a rhetorical question.
xoxos. a rhetorical name.
Message 10/23 06-Dec-98 @ 10:28 AM - RE: one time for all the cynics
rouge
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PORN?!?? That is not Porn. That is Art! Aqua rules!
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