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Subject: Another "how do they do that" question. :)
Original Message 1/28 15-Sep-98 @ 03:39 AM - Another
How do I do drill sounds? You know the ones, Squarepusher, Aphex Twin, Autechre
style speed-breaks. I've tried cutting and pasting a really small snare over and over again but it doesn't sound right.
How the hell can they get the damn drills to speed up, slow down, go all over the place?
(I know I'll probably get flamed for posting this beginners shite)
-Thayl
style speed-breaks. I've tried cutting and pasting a really small snare over and over again but it doesn't sound right.
How the hell can they get the damn drills to speed up, slow down, go all over the place?
(I know I'll probably get flamed for posting this beginners shite)
-Thayl
Message 2/28 15-Sep-98 @ 05:10 AM - RE: Another
1. Go to the dentist pretending you have a painly tooth.
2. Take a hand recorder with you (DAT or MD recommended)
3. In the right moment (I mean when the dentist approach the drill to your mouth press the record button and try to
stay quiet (shouts of pain can crap the drill sound).
4. When you think is enought go press stop.
5. Go home and sample the sound. I use digital I/O to obtain the best quality, specially in the harmonic 37 that is crucial for a real drill sound.
Thatīs all.
P.S.: you could get a Black & Decker drill for a more agressive texture.
Richard D. James
2. Take a hand recorder with you (DAT or MD recommended)
3. In the right moment (I mean when the dentist approach the drill to your mouth press the record button and try to
stay quiet (shouts of pain can crap the drill sound).
4. When you think is enought go press stop.
5. Go home and sample the sound. I use digital I/O to obtain the best quality, specially in the harmonic 37 that is crucial for a real drill sound.
Thatīs all.
P.S.: you could get a Black & Decker drill for a more agressive texture.
Richard D. James
Message 4/28 15-Sep-98 @ 09:01 AM - RE: Another
dunno how much of a newbie you are, but synths have an LFO (low-frequency oscillator) that you can use to modulate/change various parts of your sound. most often they're used in vibrato/tremelo effects. if you're lucky, your synth will have an lfo with several waveforms (from a "smooth" sine/triagle wave to a more vicious square wave through a random "sample-and-hold wave) and a large speed variation....
if your lfos are fast enough you can use an lfo to modulate the volume/vca - at low lfo speeds you'll get a gentle tremelo, at fast a kind of manic drill....
use the most vicious lfo-shape you have - generally a square wave (a saw or a triangle will do) - and give it the most modulation depth so every time the lfo cycles it's cutting your sound from maximum volume to zero-volume - like an on/off effect but very fast. if your sound is quite harsh (and with a fast attack-time) in the first place you'll get a nice industrial drill effect.
to change the speed of the drill simply change the lfo speed. you could do it by hand (just change the value up and down as the sound plays), assign a controller (ie your mod-wheel) to control the rate, use another lfo to modulate the first one so the speed is constantly changing or finally, if your synth has it, use keyboard-tracking to control the rate - at high notes it'll go faster than at low notes - thus giving you a kind of motorbike-effect....
that should give you some help. if you don't know what the hell i'm talking about or you haven't got any analog or analog-style synths, get a copy of "vaz" software synth and follow some tutorials in that. or you could just sample a drill
if your lfos are fast enough you can use an lfo to modulate the volume/vca - at low lfo speeds you'll get a gentle tremelo, at fast a kind of manic drill....
use the most vicious lfo-shape you have - generally a square wave (a saw or a triangle will do) - and give it the most modulation depth so every time the lfo cycles it's cutting your sound from maximum volume to zero-volume - like an on/off effect but very fast. if your sound is quite harsh (and with a fast attack-time) in the first place you'll get a nice industrial drill effect.
to change the speed of the drill simply change the lfo speed. you could do it by hand (just change the value up and down as the sound plays), assign a controller (ie your mod-wheel) to control the rate, use another lfo to modulate the first one so the speed is constantly changing or finally, if your synth has it, use keyboard-tracking to control the rate - at high notes it'll go faster than at low notes - thus giving you a kind of motorbike-effect....
that should give you some help. if you don't know what the hell i'm talking about or you haven't got any analog or analog-style synths, get a copy of "vaz" software synth and follow some tutorials in that. or you could just sample a drill
Message 5/28 15-Sep-98 @ 09:29 AM - RE: Another
Get a larger sample of a snare cos you want each sample to cut off the last.. Past them into 1/32 resolution.. With the big sample at this resolution you will only hear the part of the snare that is the punchy part.
Message 6/28 15-Sep-98 @ 01:43 PM - RE: Another
Use a real drill and a guitar. Hold the drill (USE A CORDLESS FOR GOD'S SAKE!) over the pickups not touching the strings... Season to taste w/ FX. and sample.
-Craig
-Craig
Message 7/28 15-Sep-98 @ 02:42 PM - RE: Another
go to a military base and mic them when they all walk about..
haven't heard anything by these guys except aphex twin and it's been years. if by drill sound you mean like the kick drum break that skinny puppy use in 'dig it' that's done just by using 64ths or 128s as everyone else has said... early aphex twin track w/ effect you want?
well, we are all beginners at one time or another; the best still are. but there's lots of ways to modulate a sample.. also a drumroll (still not sure if this is what you mean by drill sound) sounds different on seperate modules. some modules (ie. my old mirage-sample playback is a mix'n'match) may not give you the same thing twice and a drumroll is more bubbly whereas a good sampler is more icy/clean and you'll get a totally different feel to this type of fast sequencing.
xoxos.
haven't heard anything by these guys except aphex twin and it's been years. if by drill sound you mean like the kick drum break that skinny puppy use in 'dig it' that's done just by using 64ths or 128s as everyone else has said... early aphex twin track w/ effect you want?
well, we are all beginners at one time or another; the best still are. but there's lots of ways to modulate a sample.. also a drumroll (still not sure if this is what you mean by drill sound) sounds different on seperate modules. some modules (ie. my old mirage-sample playback is a mix'n'match) may not give you the same thing twice and a drumroll is more bubbly whereas a good sampler is more icy/clean and you'll get a totally different feel to this type of fast sequencing.
xoxos.
Message 8/28 15-Sep-98 @ 02:44 PM - RE: Another
oh and straight away, you might want to try something fun like ramping the amplitude/volume or other basic parameter of your snare...
Message 9/28 15-Sep-98 @ 08:54 PM - RE: Another
Since you're talking Squarepusher and Aphex Twin, I think Bill's got it, but another option, with a sampler, would be to simply set an lfo to retrigger on a snare sample
Message 10/28 15-Sep-98 @ 11:17 PM - RE: Another
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Hmmm...
I think the key here is to use sounds (probable snare-like) in 1/32 or even 1/64, and make sure that whenever a new sound start playing the previous one is silenced. I've been trying this myself, and thought I did everything 'right' but somehow it all sounded wrong, until I got the idea of making that channel mono on my sampler. Did the trick.
And then vary pitch and maybe cutoff filter while your 'drill' is playing.
I wouldn't go the lfo route, would probably be too hard to sync it with the correct bpm of your track, but then, maybe you might not want that.
I think the key here is to use sounds (probable snare-like) in 1/32 or even 1/64, and make sure that whenever a new sound start playing the previous one is silenced. I've been trying this myself, and thought I did everything 'right' but somehow it all sounded wrong, until I got the idea of making that channel mono on my sampler. Did the trick.
And then vary pitch and maybe cutoff filter while your 'drill' is playing.
I wouldn't go the lfo route, would probably be too hard to sync it with the correct bpm of your track, but then, maybe you might not want that.
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