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Subject: Cakewalk over VST
Original Message 1/12 14-Aug-98 @ 06:38 PM - Cakewalk over VST
pretty colourful setup but does seem to be very crappy on performance. I bought the Producer Pack
and after checking up on it(WEb,stores) I returned
it right away before I could start messing with its potential problems. My opinion is that some
music manuf. do not take the PC platform very seriously or why would they release such sloppy
software, is it just to satisfy all the people who
own a PC, give us all a bone to feed on, then get
right back to work there MAC stuff!!!, making sure that baby runs JUST Perfect....
So anyway I got Cake 7 - and its pretty good - the
latency thing sucks and the Pitch to Midi thing is
a fucking joke. I would rather they put more into
audio stuff and skip a little on all those 'features' , anyone agree. SAW and Samplitude look
interesting - but aren't really MIDI sequencers.
All in all it is good , has a more sterile look about it - I guess they spent more time on actually making the thing work then painting pictures.
To recap just a bit, I don't know, but around me
most musicians swear by the Mac and look at me funny cause I use a PC, they always point out that
pros only use Macs(I have to say this seems to be true from what I've read) so whats going on ??
Responds and comments very welcome
Message 2/12 14-Aug-98 @ 06:53 PM - RE: Cakewalk over VST
Unfortunatly my little Cyrix chip just can't hang! I have 40megs of ram.....So how fast of a processor/ram do I really need so I can twist virtual knobs and just go about my business without a hangup? Itr does this with cakewalk too!.......
Message 3/12 14-Aug-98 @ 08:03 PM - RE: Cakewalk over VST
Pro or P II with MMX to really have a decent setup. You
know the friggin Macs have the Motorola chip with dual
backside cache etc., this makes them good for Digital Audio and Effects processing - that chip handles well. I'm
not to keen on the other alternatives to the P II on PC,
what I mean is I don't know enough about them just yet.
As you know get 64 ram - SDRAM is fast, you all know this already I'm sure.
Still curious about others comments On Cake, VST and Mac and PC stuff(see 1st message)
Message 4/12 15-Aug-98 @ 01:20 AM - RE: Cakewalk over VST
Message 5/12 16-Aug-98 @ 03:55 AM - RE: Cakewalk over VST
the present time(I know its getting better) I really do
want to see it gain a bit more respect. I think the PC needs a Pro Tools type of thing, its seems Cake 7 is the most powerful MIDI/Audio program out there and still doesn't support 24 bit. We need to get away from this Soundblaster bullshit and get real stuff in there, more of
this mentality could only help the PC music community not hurt it.
Kilo I'm figuring you have lots of gear, Do you own a Mac
or what and if not do you want one ? , be honest.
Also Macs are getting cheaper here in the US, my guess that they may get cheaper over there in the UK.
Message 6/12 17-Aug-98 @ 12:47 AM - RE: Cakewalk over VST
Message 7/12 17-Aug-98 @ 04:05 AM - RE: Cakewalk over VST
the system that will make you get your music done, fuck
all the extras and all the hype, cause I think VST gets too much fuckin hype,(Pro Tools seems to deserve it a little more). But I myself am thinking about the high end hardware stuff (Layla,Audiowerk,DSP factory) cause I know
it relieves the CPU of some hassle and work, in a situation like that maybe the computer of choice is less of an issue. Sure I would be curious to operate a Mac, and
by the way I totally agree about Windows and things, the operating system is too flimsy and mass consumer based for PCs. I mean I got the WIn 98 upgrade in the mail and have not installed it, probally won't fo a while. Its all the fuckin Internet Explorer which sucks balls, pure bollocks, shite, whatever, thats my opinion. And all it does is load stuff into memory and system checks which is awful for recording music. We can't have all that overhead.
The truth is, for me at least, is there are soo many programs, plug-ins and great hardware and stuff, I can't seem to actually get anything done cause all of it gets to
me, too much information. I hate pouring money into something if there is something better out there sometimes. REsearch, research, oh fuck it all right ?
Message 8/12 17-Aug-98 @ 07:00 AM - RE: Cakewalk over VST
Atari program(right?) that was ported to the mac and
then ported to the PC. That's why it runs like shit on
the PC while Cakewalk runs good. Cakewalk has always
been a PC only product(I'm pretty sure). Steinburg needs to just start from scratch with a TOTALLY re-wrote version of Cubase for the PC. Come to think of it, I think that ALL the major sequencers except for Cakewalk
we're wrote first on Mac and then ported to the PC.
THAT'S the problem! (porting)
Anyway, I'm ready to just go the hardware route. I wish
I could live with Cakewalk but it's drum editing sucks.
Cakewalk is wrote for making dumbass conventional music
from what I can tell. It doesn't seem to work the way
that I want to work(and cubase doesn't work all that much
like how I want to either!).
Message 9/12 17-Aug-98 @ 07:00 AM - RE: Cakewalk over VST
Atari program(right?) that was ported to the mac and
then ported to the PC. That's why it runs like shit on
the PC while Cakewalk runs good. Cakewalk has always
been a PC only product(I'm pretty sure). Steinburg needs to just start from scratch with a TOTALLY re-wrote version of Cubase for the PC. Come to think of it, I think that ALL the major sequencers except for Cakewalk
we're wrote first on Mac and then ported to the PC.
THAT'S the problem! (porting)
Anyway, I'm ready to just go the hardware route. I wish
I could live with Cakewalk but it's drum editing sucks.
Cakewalk is wrote for making dumbass conventional music
from what I can tell. It doesn't seem to work the way
that I want to work(and cubase doesn't work all that much
like how I want to either!).
Message 10/12 17-Aug-98 @ 08:57 AM - RE: Cakewalk over VST
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