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Subject: RADIUM
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Message 3/107 23-Aug-03 @ 06:27 PM - RE: RADIUM
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Copyright Control Services (BASTARDS) have been turning the screws on all the file sharing and crack sites. They seem determined to have every single one of them shut down.
For most people who are using cracked software, it's a means to an end, they're not going to buy the software because they can't afford it, so if they can't get hold of cracks they're just not going to bother, or go and use some freeware instead. Most of the software companies are too f*cking thick to see that. They won't be any better off.
Nobody wants to use cracked software if they can use the proper stuff, but if you're just starting out, what do you do? You can't afford to buy it, so you have to use pirated versions.
There's many a pro who started out using cracks, who now uses the proper registered versions of software.
Message 5/107 24-Aug-03 @ 03:18 AM - RE: RADIUM
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Message 6/107 24-Aug-03 @ 03:19 AM - RE: RADIUM
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Message 8/107 24-Aug-03 @ 09:08 PM - RE: RADIUM
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Of course, if software companies reduced their prices, and made the stuff more accesible, there'd be no need for cracks.
Message 9/107 24-Aug-03 @ 11:14 PM - RE: RADIUM
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How are SW companies supposed to cut thier costs and still keep updating and improving software ?
There are budget seqencers etc. available for those starting out or strapped for cash.
Just playing devils advocate.... is cracked software a neccesity ? Or is it just being greedy when you could save for the full product ?
Message 10/107 25-Aug-03 @ 05:53 AM - RE: RADIUM
And we ask why does these software all suck
Message 11/107 25-Aug-03 @ 06:28 AM - RE: RADIUM
shall one of us toss out our argument that no matter what sort of justification you come up with, it is stealing?
how about the fact that most people who claim to be "broke" are regularly spending money on extras like alcohol and dope? or a fast car or this that and the other thing?
how about the one where people SCREAM if someone DL's an MP3 of theirs or copies it from vinyl to CD for someone, and yet regularly use cracks with an amazing level of hypocrisy?
tell you what "answer" you keep your socially irresponsible BS to yourself and so will I and others
Message 12/107 25-Aug-03 @ 07:24 AM - RE: RADIUM
remember? a place to express opinions whether you agree or otherwise. i mean he isn't calling for jihad or anything like that.
i don't agree with people using cracked software but i can see the point being made (sometimes). however....i'm with you in thinking that most guys i've known using cracked versions are buying new surfboards and ecstacy and trips to brazil. so yeah...lotta crack users are exactly that. and yes...i wish software companies could bring some of their prices down just a bit and even others show just a little accountability towards their customers. everyone has a side in this.
okay ...time to pack up my new board and head off to rio!
just kidding>
Message 14/107 25-Aug-03 @ 12:41 PM - RE: RADIUM
As for the ethics/morality of using stolen software ... Linux is a shining light. Pity nobody writes much audio software for it. Yet.
http://linux-sound.org/
Message 16/107 25-Aug-03 @ 06:05 PM - RE: RADIUM
no one ASKED about that shit. They asked where the group disappeared to
there was no need to go spouting that bullshit everything should be free except that which I want to make a profit from nonsense
Message 17/107 25-Aug-03 @ 08:12 PM - RE: RADIUM
Message 18/107 25-Aug-03 @ 10:21 PM - RE: RADIUM
or even shareware? I mean..really...whats so wrong about making a little money for your efforts?
now, if only someone would make a "cubase SX" type thing in freeware..or...say $200. Stripped down without bells and whistles, but serious audio and midi handling with VSTi and plugin support...etc.
the market is just ripe for that sort of thing. one that fcking WORKS
Message 19/107 25-Aug-03 @ 10:38 PM - RE: RADIUM
like that one? no idea what it's like though.
Message 20/107 25-Aug-03 @ 11:45 PM - RE: RADIUM
but..no VSTi or Plugin support?
Message 21/107 26-Aug-03 @ 01:18 AM - RE: RADIUM
I can't afford a new car, so rather than buy an old one with miles on it, I'll take a new one. Damn those car manufacturers anyways!!! They keep building new cars I can't afford!!!
And radios. Man I need a new radio with surround sound, and 16 different audio effects, but I can't afford it. Damn Sony for charging money for their hard work. I'll just take one.
And a wife? I can't get one on my own, so I'll take yours!!!
Message 22/107 26-Aug-03 @ 02:18 AM - RE: RADIUM
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Message 23/107 26-Aug-03 @ 02:24 AM - RE: RADIUM
it's why i always proudly drive ancient pieces of shit.....which i manage to pay for> legitimately.
Message 24/107 26-Aug-03 @ 02:35 AM - RE: RADIUM
mcc - If I'm right in assuming that you're old piece of shit is an 80's job, I bet it pollutes 10 times more than most SUV's on the road. I could be wrong, though. I dislike MOST SUV's as much as folks here.
Message 25/107 26-Aug-03 @ 03:29 AM - RE: RADIUM
sorry DZ...but think about it. Fact is..yes..this is capitalism, and expecting people to pay for your goods is standard, but expecting an individual to buy more than one...
using the car theory that would be like saying..dunno..the wife cant use the car to go to a different location than your normal one? something like that.
Message 26/107 26-Aug-03 @ 06:24 AM - RE: RADIUM
it's all stinking ing status....like how many bitchin synths you got or chicks or houses or boats or armies or whatever your thing is.
as for radium...if it is what i'm gathering...a marketplace for craked-software....then that totally sucks. i've never advocated crack-ware and have in fact cut off peeps for wanting tips on how to use theirs.
i agree in honest business. if you can't get cubase or logic...then get e-jay or music studio or fruity loops or reason or whatever.
Message 27/107 26-Aug-03 @ 07:15 AM - RE: RADIUM
Message 28/107 26-Aug-03 @ 08:57 AM - RE: RADIUM
I've said this before and I'll say it again...
The main thing to be aware about software piracy - specifically audio applications, pc games, console games, officeware and movies - is that the BULK of it is the direct result of a very major organised crime operation. The "warez" that are available from more easily accessible sources on the 'net are merely the cream off the top of this.This probably isn't news to some, but I'll restate it anyway.. Basically, organised crime operations in Russia and the far east fund cracking groups in the west to "source" the software. The funding is usually by way of equipment (servers, online storage) or payment for broadband/leased line connectivity (none of that comes cheap even with the advent of low cost broadband). The software is acquired, cracked and sent across to be duplicated in huge quantities, (often with clone packaging) and sold in those territories at a fraction of the original retail price.
To wit, the majority of this pirated software is to be found on the most popular (mainstream) platforms and in the most popular application areas; hence you'll find more cracked copies of the latest PS2 game, Cubase SX for x86 machines, or VST instruments than Mac copies of (Abelton) Live 2 or high end DCC packages..
Message 29/107 26-Aug-03 @ 02:40 PM Edit: 26-Aug-03 | 02:41 PM - RE: RADIUM
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Message 30/107 26-Aug-03 @ 03:22 PM - RE: RADIUM
Message 31/107 26-Aug-03 @ 04:16 PM - RE: RADIUM
i dunno about anybody being paid by the russian mafia to crack Alive.Text.to.Speech.v3.8.5.8.Incl.Keygen-ORiON, just doesn't seem there'd be a big market for it in asia. I can see them definately buying things like pirated versions office and windows etc.
Most cracking groups are full of kids who get a kick out of being in a gang and are in competition with other groups to be the first to release crap like Alive.Text.to.Speech whatever it is. that interview with radium is a case in point, they did it for fun and a challenge, then they got older, got jobs/family/kids and stopped doing it. a quick look at any of the sites listing what these groups release tells the same story about oxygen, who these days release a lot less than the myriad of new groups out there. surely if they are in the pocket of organized crime they'd be releasing a lot more than they do.
i can see small businesses who code these programs losing money from lost sales in the west though but how much it a moot point. ultrafunk went under recently, but if waves is cracked who the hell is gonna be using a stolen ultrafunk?
Message 32/107 26-Aug-03 @ 04:44 PM - RE: RADIUM
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Message 33/107 26-Aug-03 @ 04:48 PM Edit: 26-Aug-03 | 04:51 PM - RE: RADIUM
I've spent a bit of time out in S.E. Asia and the stuff that gets cracked AND sold is surprising. Sometimes they put anything and everything they could find on "Appz" CD compilations including (no doubt) stuff like Alive.Text.to.Speech.v3.8.5.8.Incl.Keygen-ORiON
But for the most part it was for stuff like music apps, games and movies.. Add to that the fact that a LOT of this stuff was appearing in cracked form in S.E. Asia long before it showed up in the west (now why would *that* be the case, except for the fact it is "sourced" in the west coz that's where its developed and then sent east for bulk distribution)
These groups even came out with crap like "standards" about how they would re-compress the files for transportation, guidlines for what was and wasn't acceptable in a ripped copy..
Nowadays you'll find ftp servers packed with cracked warez interconnected with porn sites/services/businesses.. slightly different deal but all interconnected..
Radium *might* have been doing it for fun, but there were (and still are) plenty of other well funded groups that weren't/aren't
Message 34/107 26-Aug-03 @ 07:18 PM - RE: RADIUM
free... cubasis 'inwire' (only found on german lang. v. of site) same as cubasis w/ no song save.. plogue, bidule or buzz. different ideas.
Message 35/107 27-Aug-03 @ 01:05 AM - RE: RADIUM
But you have to acknowledge that there are limitations on use for just about ANYTHING. I can have my house, but I can't just turn it into a petting zoo, you know? I own the land, I own the house, but there are use restrictions. I'm not suggesting that the s/w industry is perfect, but I'm arguing with the many s/w thieves who say it's okay to steal when you can't afford new.
mcc - I'm not sure that I can argue with your logic. There are many other considerations when buying a new car. Is it absolutely necessary to buy a new car? Probably not. Does it make sense in situations? Sure does. There are certain advantages that if you can, and are willing, to afford them, you do. We love needful things, no doubt about it.
Message 36/107 27-Aug-03 @ 01:42 AM - RE: RADIUM
oh my gosh...a door which stays closed!
Message 37/107 27-Aug-03 @ 08:02 AM - RE: RADIUM
sorry but that just doesnt sit right with me. dunno why
Message 38/107 27-Aug-03 @ 03:53 PM - RE: RADIUM
Message 39/107 27-Aug-03 @ 04:43 PM - RE: RADIUM
As long as there is a market for it, cracks will never go away. But an article in this months SOS is interesting. They reckon that software will be released with an accompanying bit of hardware that actually does the processing. Nothing grander than a fag packet sized box full of DSP that will not hike the price too much. There's good bits and bad about that bt it will put an end to cracking.
Personally, I have used cracked software in the past but found that the vast majority of it does not work too well so it ends up frustrating, there is no support and no upgrade path. So if I really really need it and can't acheive the same result with my hardware then I'll go and buy it.
Moral of the story is.. just say no. There is plenty of cheap / free software out there that is amazing, just check out that Superwave P8 soft synth as a good example.
G
Message 40/107 27-Aug-03 @ 06:09 PM - RE: RADIUM
What happened to having some honesty and respect for the work of other people?
Message 41/107 27-Aug-03 @ 06:43 PM - RE: RADIUM
sick, but so fucking true. GIVE ME MINE RIGHT NOW.
Message 42/107 27-Aug-03 @ 06:57 PM - RE: RADIUM
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Message 43/107 27-Aug-03 @ 07:27 PM - RE: RADIUM
SX is a good example. tons of people havin probs
altho..Im really starting to think that its just due to idiocy, not steinberg bein shitty
Message 44/107 27-Aug-03 @ 08:22 PM - RE: RADIUM
Influx man.... you always sound so jaded! People still care ya know, just in different degrees!
Craig.. they are apparently gonna be housed outside the machine and linked up with firewire.
G
Message 45/107 27-Aug-03 @ 08:25 PM - RE: RADIUM
realistic?
where I come from people just flat out dont give a shit for the most part, as long as they get what they WANT (they call it NEED, but)
sure there are standouts, but very few
Message 46/107 27-Aug-03 @ 09:03 PM - RE: RADIUM
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I'd much sooner be using the fully registered versions, but until or unless I can afford it, I'm going to carry on using cracks, because I've got no choice.
The thing about the prices that software companies charge is actually true. I know the programs are expensive to develop, but they know people will want the stuff once it's on the market, and they know they can charge for it, because they make it desirable. Some companies are far worse than others though, their prices are extortionate, and they threaten you with all sorts of terrible things if you dare use an unlicensed version of their software. This seems particularly the case with German companies.
There's one simple solution to this whole affair and it lies in the hands of the software companies themselves; if they were to offer interested parties the chance to buy a valid license from them for say 25% of the actual retail price, for say three years, in which time the user could pursue their musical endeavours, and if they're able to starting making some cash from their music, they could hopefully then, be able to afford to buy a full license. Alternatively they could offer consumers the chance to buy the license on higher purchase over a period of time.
There are plenty of people out there with talent, who want to take up music, with the aim of trying to become semi or fully professional - I'd like to myself eventually. But in order to pursue that aim they need the gear to do it.
Freeware is free because a lot of it - not all of it, is diabolical. It either doesn't work properly, or if it does work, it's buggy. It's difficult to use, hard to manipulate, and that's why it's free.
Some freeware is excellent, the Triangle synths are an example of this, as are Mr Xoxos's programs. (But Mr Xoxos is a genius) The Superwave P8 is good, but even that is buggy.
That's my two penny's worth.
Message 47/107 27-Aug-03 @ 09:39 PM - RE: RADIUM
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That's even worse. I don't have Firewire on any of my machines (not counting my work lappy). So what then, I've gotta have three of these little boxes cluttering up a floor already littered with about half-mile of cable?
No thanks, I'll be giving my money to the companies who don't pursue such absurdities.
And as for cracks working better than real software, you can always not use it (use somehthing else). Vote with your wallet - that's the only thing anyone's listening to any more
I bought the Ultrafunk plugs because Waves' copy protection fucked up my machine. Sorry Waves...
Message 48/107 27-Aug-03 @ 10:11 PM - RE: RADIUM
As far as Radium they've been gone a couple years. CCS was coming on back then and they had been doing it awhile and a bunch of them were growing up and moving. Oxygen, Zone, and Arctic are also gone now. The new guy on the block is H2O (Arctic and Oxygen joined together). Oxdbass is the other one.
I really believe that they are WAY more people using cracked software than anyone thinks. Every studio I've been to has a certain amount of cracked software; some more than others. As long as there's copy protection on software they'll always be someone that wantst to "crack" it. Just the way it is I guess.
Message 49/107 27-Aug-03 @ 10:59 PM - RE: RADIUM
" Well, i remember especially downloading my 12th copy of a 'Cubase 3.0 crack fully working', and it didnt work at all, audiowarez was really getting neglected by warez groups, and a lot of the releases didnt work or were very badly tested, so i figured it was time someone who actually used the apps started releasing them
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Message 50/107 28-Aug-03 @ 02:32 AM - RE: RADIUM
Influx - please reread my messages, I never addressed that point.
mcc - at some point, driving an older car becomes more expensive than driving a newer car. These things happen.
Message 51/107 28-Aug-03 @ 02:41 AM - RE: RADIUM
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Message 54/107 28-Aug-03 @ 03:13 AM - RE: RADIUM
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Message 55/107 28-Aug-03 @ 03:15 AM - RE: RADIUM
central government yo g>
phat~
i gotz mine.
Message 56/107 28-Aug-03 @ 03:29 AM Edit: 28-Aug-03 | 03:30 AM - RE: RADIUM
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERsa.htm
it's amazing just how many creepie crawlies have emerged from the woodwork these days.Denmark is getting ridiculously xenophobic legislation is being enacted against foreigners the rhetoric is becoming more and more akin to the rhetoric spouted by the nazis back in the 30s and all this from a supposedly liberal country.
Message 57/107 28-Aug-03 @ 03:33 AM - RE: RADIUM
Message 58/107 28-Aug-03 @ 04:39 AM - RE: RADIUM
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I'm entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is that freeware is for the most part diabolical. I know because I've tried to use it.
I admire anyone who can use it, and use it well such as Xoxos. But as I've already stated - he's a genius, like the majority of people - I'm not.
The last lot of freeware I tried to use crashed my computer - so f*ck freeware.
Message 59/107 28-Aug-03 @ 04:56 AM - RE: RADIUM
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Message 61/107 28-Aug-03 @ 06:28 AM - RE: RADIUM
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You all create your "tunes" (at least those of you using computers) but your tunes aren't even real. It's all bollocks, so for f*cks sake stop arguing and go and smell the flowers or something.
Message 62/107 28-Aug-03 @ 07:34 AM Edit: 28-Aug-03 | 07:35 AM - RE: RADIUM
if you don't buy your software or sounds, you are breaking the laws of our modern world here. nuff said.
howEVER....
information, property, "rights".... what wonderful concepts. Tell me why they should work the way you think they should? Tell me who said "you can OWN that," "You have a RIGHT to that," or "that thing is WORTH something?" and why did you believe them?
I firmly believe that the mere fact that NO ONE has been able to completely protect pure information (an algorithm, a digital representation of art in some way, etc.) is a little hint to humanity that that shit doesn't belong to you. When you "discover" or "invent" a new "concept," write a new tune, or find a drug that may help humanity, you are tapping into something beyond yourself, something that you cannot claim as yours. And you're a pompous human if you expect reward for such an achievement. Even if you had to spend money to achieve it, you should realize what it is you're trying to achieve and expect nothing in return.
IMHO.
Try just being happy that you're alive and that you can see beyond yourself into more universal ideas. It will make you a happier person in the long run. Write a song and give it away. Don't expect anything of the universe but to experience it, and you'll find you won't get so pissed off when you hear about someone using cracks.
Message 63/107 28-Aug-03 @ 12:14 PM - RE: RADIUM
Message 64/107 28-Aug-03 @ 02:35 PM - RE: RADIUM
now and again.
Message 65/107 28-Aug-03 @ 05:27 PM - RE: RADIUM
And I'm supposed to give software away for free why?!?
If nobody paid for it, nobody would write it.
-Craig
Message 68/107 28-Aug-03 @ 08:59 PM - RE: RADIUM
NUKULAR!
sorry 99
Message 69/107 28-Aug-03 @ 11:36 PM - RE: RADIUM
Again - a 92 Honda isn't as fancy as a new Rolls Royce, but you gotta crawl before you can walk.
mcc - sheesh, make a couple of pro government statements, and suddenly the one voice of pro-business/small government around here is likened to some pretty bad people. There are plenty of examples that illustrate my true colors. I'd prefer the government to stay the hell out of my business, but sometimes the people need to be protected from the interests of business. I see it every day in my own life.
Message 70/107 28-Aug-03 @ 11:53 PM - RE: RADIUM
Message 72/107 29-Aug-03 @ 12:34 AM - RE: RADIUM
hey, pay for the support not the software ...
jealousy rulz, i have something you want, i did have an idea but some other twat had it too and they shagged my arse ... now my arse hurts
Message 73/107 29-Aug-03 @ 03:19 AM - RE: RADIUM
intellectual property rights is something i can abide by.....but i think lawyers and corporate ceo's inject a level of NEED into every equation...often neglecting to remember those of the consumer.
in that respect, i sense some agreement.
as beds said....pay for the support.
Message 74/107 29-Aug-03 @ 05:27 AM - RE: RADIUM
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Message 75/107 29-Aug-03 @ 05:47 AM - RE: RADIUM
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It is wrong, they should be living the same way as us, they should be forced to follow the same religion as us, the fact that they don't is a good enough reason to bomb them, to fight them, to terrorise them into submission.
We have to live by our Islamic rules, and so should they..
It's pretty much the same with you people. Defector Z, you can call Omo a theif, but it's his choice to use the software he does, just as it's your choice to buy it. If he's not lying, and he can't afford to buy it, then look at this way, he's "borrowing" it without permission until such a time that he's able to use legitamate versions of whatever software it is.
Is it REALLY so important?
NOW GO AND GET SOME SUN AND BREATHE THE AIR AND SMELL THE FLOWERS!
Message 76/107 29-Aug-03 @ 06:11 AM - RE: RADIUM
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To Defective Z I say this: Do you relly think I'd use "stolen" software, if freeware was up to the job?
I might be many things, but I'm not a deliberate law breaker and I resent you classing me as such.
I'll pose the question again, if freeware is wonderful, why isn't everybody using it?
The fact of the matter is it's not up to the job.
So, I'm borrowing the software I need, and I'll tell you this, if I'm in a position to buy it later on I will.
Anyway, I don't give a shit what you or anyone else thinks.
Fascist.
Message 77/107 29-Aug-03 @ 06:37 AM - RE: RADIUM
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Three of the four that I am using are out of date, one by five years. So stick that your pipe and smoke it.
Message 78/107 29-Aug-03 @ 01:51 PM - RE: RADIUM
I'm slipping in my written communication skills these days.
Message 79/107 29-Aug-03 @ 02:26 PM - RE: RADIUM
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Message 81/107 29-Aug-03 @ 07:56 PM - RE: RADIUM
Who cares its not goin n e where with this arguing.
Message 83/107 30-Aug-03 @ 02:52 AM - RE: RADIUM
using cracks is using stolen goods.
If you are trying to argue to me (through the words of The Answer) that you are making social/economic/cultural statement by using cracked software...
Sorry, I can't finish that argument. It's so absurd. I didn't realize that using computers to make music is a right to all individuals, regardless of their religion, nationality, ethnicity or sexual orientation. Glad to know it is on the same level as having a roof over your head and food on your plate.
I've said my peace, now you can have the last word.
Message 84/107 30-Aug-03 @ 03:34 AM - RE: RADIUM
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That's one piece of software you can't accuse me of thieving. I've got the FREE version.
Let's just agree to disagree.p
Message 85/107 30-Aug-03 @ 03:41 AM - RE: RADIUM
Message 88/107 01-Sep-03 @ 08:59 PM - RE: RADIUM
is the end of the begining.
REMEMBER KIDS STAY OFF CRACKZ!
Message 89/107 05-Sep-03 @ 02:56 AM - RE: RADIUM
Using cracked software is NOT theft.
Using cracked software is COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT.
Both are still wrong, but are two very different things and I'm getting tired of people going on with the "piracy is theft" argument.
Let's say I have 5 widgets for sale on a table. They cost me $20 to produce and I'm selling them for $35. Someone comes up and steals one of those widgets. I have now only 4 widgets that I can sell, having been physically deprived of one of them and therefore the production costs and the potential revenue from its sale. This is theft.
Now, lets say I am Steinberg. Last time I checked Cubase was around $1000 here in Canada. If some 15-year old warez d00d downloads a cracked version, have I been deprived of anything? Is there one less copy of Cubase available for me to sell? NO!! That kid was most likely never going to be a customer the in the first place, and could probably not afford it anyway. The point is that unlike the CD-seller in my example above, Steinberg as not "lost" anything. Their copyright has been infringed, but they have not had anything STOLEN from them.
Get it? Got it? Good.
Message 90/107 05-Sep-03 @ 02:59 AM - RE: RADIUM
good point tho. no actual "loss" except for the potentially lost sales. no matter what you say, there are "some"
still a good point regarding the distinction
Message 91/107 05-Sep-03 @ 03:27 AM - RE: RADIUM
i seez wat hez sayin cos you know how we do it
Message 92/107 08-Sep-03 @ 02:42 PM - RE: RADIUM
Company A makes 5000 widgets - physical objects, and must sell all of them at $100 a piece to pay back the company's investment and pay their staff. Some slimy ass motherfucker goes to the warehouse and rips off 2000 widgets. Company A has to lay off staff, and possibly goes out of business.
Company B builds software. They need to ship 5000 units at $100 apiece to pay back the company's investment and pay their staff. Some slimy ass motherfucker cracks their software and posts it on the internet, and 2000 potential customers download the crack instead of buying the software. Company B has to lay off staff (thanks for costing me my job), and probably goes out of business.
How's that different from the slimy motherfucker who physically robbed 2000 widgets?
But, you say, I couldn't afford to buy company B's software anyways. Well, by those people being able to use B's software for free, they've taken sales away from Company C - which makes a similar, though less featured product for $35. Company C also lays off staff or goes out of business. Or the independant programmer who wrote the program stops developing it because he has to get a real job now.
If you are arguing that it's OK to use cracks instead of paying for software, then you're just plain wrong.
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Message 95/107 08-Sep-03 @ 04:17 PM - RE: RADIUM
In addition to the little guys, you're also hurting local level studios and the engineers who work there.
Message 96/107 08-Sep-03 @ 05:47 PM - RE: RADIUM
the local studios etc are a huge part of who uses cracks!
also...theres no way around the fact that some of these people just would never have bought software anyway...so its really not a lost sale!
Message 97/107 08-Sep-03 @ 09:25 PM - RE: RADIUM
I agree that there's a big problem with smaller studios not paying for things, and for that I simply have no respect. You shouldn't be making money off of the software PERIOD.
Over the last few years I've really started to take my own personal stand against software piracy. I paid for pretty much every program I own now. The only things I don't like are things like MS having no more concurrent licensing... One license for Office should cover my two desktop machines plus my laptop. After all, I could have 3 word docs open on one machine, or one open on each of 3 machines. What's the difference?
But I don't really have any tolerance for people using cracks of Cubase and never having any intention of paying for it. When I was a kid and I wanted to start playing guitar, I worked odd jobs, umpired little league ball, and worked in an auto parts warehouse to save up money for my first axe and amp. Why should software be any different, just because it isn't physical?!?
Message 98/107 08-Sep-03 @ 09:37 PM - RE: RADIUM
also..the level of power you get with a prog like cubase SX?
shiiit. 10s of thousands of dollars worth of equipment if purchased in HW!
Message 99/107 08-Sep-03 @ 11:05 PM - RE: RADIUM
now if i could only scrape measly 3000$ for that new G5 (not to mention another 1000$ reserve for when something goes wrong it)
Message 100/107 08-Sep-03 @ 11:26 PM - RE: RADIUM
Message 101/107 09-Sep-03 @ 01:00 AM - RE: RADIUM
Personally, the money I "stole" from the creators of the software I learned about music on, is nothing compared to what I've spent since then on related products. Not to say that as long as you spend more than you "take" its made ok or anything. The greater music gear market now has me as a potential customer, which it never did before cracked Rebirth in 1997.
Message 102/107 09-Sep-03 @ 03:21 AM - RE: RADIUM
good karma is always worth the price.
that said>
i can't wait for ableton 3!!!!!!!
check out the new features up-and-coming!!...and the upgrade is totally reasonable!!!
did i say reason?
Message 103/107 12-Sep-03 @ 11:55 PM - RE: RADIUM
Anyone tried it?
Message 105/107 13-Sep-03 @ 05:41 AM - RE: RADIUM
I have no problem with this model because I can't afford to buy Cubase, Sonar and Logic PLUS every friggin softsynth on the market in order to determine wich is going to best serve my needs and in the end that is what commerce is about - the needs of the customer, not the software company. I may like the idea behind a certain product but if it doesn't fit my working methods I don't want to find out after I've emptied my wallet.
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