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Subject: Getting Started.
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Original Message 1/11 23-Jan-04 @ 02:01 AM - Getting Started.
I am an electronica/dance music junkie, i love the stuff. I have been thinking about getting into making my own mixes and junk but i don't even know where to start. i was just wondering if anyone had any suggestions, i would prefer to start out solely on my computer and work towards a full studio eventually, but i figured for getting started a computer program would probably be best to fiddle around with to create some original sounds and such.
If anyone has any suggestions of a cheap/free downloadable program or some helpfull advice i would greatly appreciate any feedback i could get.
also some good sites or something for some helpfull tips and help on learning how to work with the programs and equipment would be a plus too.
thanks in advance to anyone who replies.
for dirrect access you can email me some information to....
Creedin@hotmail.com
CrackHeadBob
If anyone has any suggestions of a cheap/free downloadable program or some helpfull advice i would greatly appreciate any feedback i could get.
also some good sites or something for some helpfull tips and help on learning how to work with the programs and equipment would be a plus too.
thanks in advance to anyone who replies.
for dirrect access you can email me some information to....
Creedin@hotmail.com
CrackHeadBob
Message 2/11 23-Jan-04 @ 04:02 AM - RE: Getting Started.
http://www.tweakheadz.com/guide.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar01/articles/faq.htm?session=d9f84fec77729e48ad564164c219debf
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr01/articles/gettingstarted.asp?session=d9f84fec77729e48ad564164c219debf
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may01/articles/faq.htm?session=d9f84fec77729e48ad564164c219debf
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may01/articles/faq.htm?session=d9f84fec77729e48ad564164c219debf
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb98/articles/intogear.html?session=d9f84fec77729e48ad564164c219debf
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1997_articles/dec97/homestudio1.html?session=d9f84fec77729e48ad564164c219debf
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1995_articles/mar95/firststudio1.html?session=d9f84fec77729e48ad564164c219debf
http://emusician.com/ar/emusic_going_soft/index.htm
http://emusician.com/ar/emusic_artistprocom_llc/index.htm
There is a particular logic behind setting up a studio of ANY size. Some of these articles are rather old, however, read them. Read all of them because as you read them you will begin to see the thinking, the logic, behind setting up a studio. Logic that was applicable ten years ago is still applicable today even if the specific gear choices and techniques may not be.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar01/articles/faq.htm?session=d9f84fec77729e48ad564164c219debf
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr01/articles/gettingstarted.asp?session=d9f84fec77729e48ad564164c219debf
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may01/articles/faq.htm?session=d9f84fec77729e48ad564164c219debf
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may01/articles/faq.htm?session=d9f84fec77729e48ad564164c219debf
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb98/articles/intogear.html?session=d9f84fec77729e48ad564164c219debf
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1997_articles/dec97/homestudio1.html?session=d9f84fec77729e48ad564164c219debf
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1995_articles/mar95/firststudio1.html?session=d9f84fec77729e48ad564164c219debf
http://emusician.com/ar/emusic_going_soft/index.htm
http://emusician.com/ar/emusic_artistprocom_llc/index.htm
There is a particular logic behind setting up a studio of ANY size. Some of these articles are rather old, however, read them. Read all of them because as you read them you will begin to see the thinking, the logic, behind setting up a studio. Logic that was applicable ten years ago is still applicable today even if the specific gear choices and techniques may not be.
Message 3/11 23-Jan-04 @ 04:58 AM Edit: 23-Jan-04 | 04:59 AM - RE: Getting Started.
ive been producing for 2 years. this was my path:
mtv music generator ->techno ejay-> fruityloops (but mixing the tracks in techno ejay) -> all fruityloops ->logic w/ vsts ->logic with h/w synths.
but as for advice:
1) search this site. there's so much information here its crazy. when i first started, people told me this and i just never did it for some reason until later. then i realised how much of an idiot i was for not following directions, and things went smoothly after that. use forum search, read articles, read reviews etc. just learn how things *work*
2) whatever you decide to buy, read the manual. front to fucking back. then open the prog with the manual tightly lodged on your lap and start to fiddle in the prog. do not remove the manual from your lap for a week, unless you are taking a shit in which it should be elevated.
3) learn your shit. learn whatever program you decide to buy IN AND OUT. if its not enough for you, then move on to something more complicated. i felt that way about fruityloops (also becuase i rushed into a purchase which I didn't have the knowledge to use) but still people produce, sell, and make money with only fruityloops.
4) i reccomend (personally) starting with fruity something. fruity studio looks like something that could last you forever really- its a fully blown sequencer that will deffo keep you busy. fruityloops is still great tho- thats what i used for so long and i loved it (well still do really whenever i get around to using it)
5) i reccomend: change your name. if i wanted to listen to a crackhead, i'd turn on FOX news.
mtv music generator ->techno ejay-> fruityloops (but mixing the tracks in techno ejay) -> all fruityloops ->logic w/ vsts ->logic with h/w synths.
but as for advice:
1) search this site. there's so much information here its crazy. when i first started, people told me this and i just never did it for some reason until later. then i realised how much of an idiot i was for not following directions, and things went smoothly after that. use forum search, read articles, read reviews etc. just learn how things *work*
2) whatever you decide to buy, read the manual. front to fucking back. then open the prog with the manual tightly lodged on your lap and start to fiddle in the prog. do not remove the manual from your lap for a week, unless you are taking a shit in which it should be elevated.
3) learn your shit. learn whatever program you decide to buy IN AND OUT. if its not enough for you, then move on to something more complicated. i felt that way about fruityloops (also becuase i rushed into a purchase which I didn't have the knowledge to use) but still people produce, sell, and make money with only fruityloops.
4) i reccomend (personally) starting with fruity something. fruity studio looks like something that could last you forever really- its a fully blown sequencer that will deffo keep you busy. fruityloops is still great tho- thats what i used for so long and i loved it (well still do really whenever i get around to using it)
5) i reccomend: change your name. if i wanted to listen to a crackhead, i'd turn on FOX news.
Message 4/11 23-Jan-04 @ 07:31 AM - RE: Getting Started.
Check out the demos for reason ( www.propellerheads.se ), fruityloops ( http://www.fruityloops.com/ ) and traction ( www.rawmaterialsoftware.com ). There are others as well, but these are all good, "all-in-one" softwares for a start.
Evaluate them, try to figure out which one works best for you, also, if this "do everything in the computer" approach works for you at all. There are dedicated forums to your software specific questions as well (well, except for traction).
Then, do everything as BS said
What kind of music you want to produce BTW?
Evaluate them, try to figure out which one works best for you, also, if this "do everything in the computer" approach works for you at all. There are dedicated forums to your software specific questions as well (well, except for traction).
Then, do everything as BS said
What kind of music you want to produce BTW?
Message 5/11 23-Jan-04 @ 04:01 PM - RE: Getting Started.
if you don't want to mess with demos, check www.kvr-vst.com search function for free hosts.. the trouble with free hosts is that they're usually either limited versions of commercial products, or 'labours of love' by some free thinking developer.. ie. bidule.. free, capable, but esoteric and not easy to understand w/o some b/g knowledge..
my current pick for a beginner (based on limited knowledge) would be "computer music" mag's free v. of muzys.. 16 channels (of vsti or audio afaik) and, well, only 2 fx slots on each channel, but that's not bad for starters. oc you either have to buy an issue of cm or bug someone (like me) to u/l it somewhere for you :p
my current pick for a beginner (based on limited knowledge) would be "computer music" mag's free v. of muzys.. 16 channels (of vsti or audio afaik) and, well, only 2 fx slots on each channel, but that's not bad for starters. oc you either have to buy an issue of cm or bug someone (like me) to u/l it somewhere for you :p
Message 6/11 23-Jan-04 @ 09:41 PM Edit: 23-Jan-04 | 09:43 PM - RE: Getting Started.
his name? i hadn't signed up or anything when i posted this thread. thought i would do it later when i had a chance, it was late hehe. thanks for all the helpfull info, i'll start testing out some of that,
i don't plan to work strictly from my computer for long, just to get started until i can get the extra cash to start getting hardware and junk.
hopefully i can get something to tinker with.
as far as what type of Music i like, what really got me hooked back into electronic was Sandstorm. i forget who did it but i loved it. thats my main focus on types of music. i really love the club music that makes you want to get out on the floor and dance. got to have a good fast paced beat. i'll get ahold of a program and hopefully get some test songs going soon, lots of time on my hands at the moment.
wish me luck. hehe we'll see if i have what it takes to succeed in this area.
i don't plan to work strictly from my computer for long, just to get started until i can get the extra cash to start getting hardware and junk.
hopefully i can get something to tinker with.
as far as what type of Music i like, what really got me hooked back into electronic was Sandstorm. i forget who did it but i loved it. thats my main focus on types of music. i really love the club music that makes you want to get out on the floor and dance. got to have a good fast paced beat. i'll get ahold of a program and hopefully get some test songs going soon, lots of time on my hands at the moment.
wish me luck. hehe we'll see if i have what it takes to succeed in this area.
Message 7/11 24-Jan-04 @ 03:48 AM - RE: Getting Started.
OH NO! DARUDE!
(thats who did sandstorm)
anyway...nuff said already...
you basically need a sequencer, soundsource(s), a mixer and effects
these can be all hardware, all software, or a combination of both.
another "all in one" type prog is ORION. It, FruityLoops and Reason are all fairly solid for starting off, and arent all that expensive considering what you get
(thats who did sandstorm)
anyway...nuff said already...
you basically need a sequencer, soundsource(s), a mixer and effects
these can be all hardware, all software, or a combination of both.
another "all in one" type prog is ORION. It, FruityLoops and Reason are all fairly solid for starting off, and arent all that expensive considering what you get
Message 8/11 24-Jan-04 @ 07:38 AM - RE: Getting Started.
damn, influx... I mean, i agree and all, but don't go shitting on his inspiration at the start gate, right?
Seriously... I think you will grow to like "deeper" forms of electronic music if you stick with it, Creedin... People here are cynical of Darude and other pop trance because we've heard it all and have moved on to something else (well, most of us). Just try your best to be a musician first and a producer second (then an engineer).... and you'll be a'ight. 
Seriously... I think you will grow to like "deeper" forms of electronic music if you stick with it, Creedin... People here are cynical of Darude and other pop trance because we've heard it all and have moved on to something else (well, most of us
). Just try your best to be a musician first and a producer second (then an engineer).... and you'll be a'ight.
Message 9/11 24-Jan-04 @ 10:05 AM - RE: Getting Started.
it was just a joke. sorry.
that sandstorm track was pretty cool, but...in an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie type way.
hope you find your niche, man! it can be pretty fulfilling to translate your thoughts to beats and music.
and...if you end up doin the melodic stuff, more power to ya! just dont fall for the cheese!
that sandstorm track was pretty cool, but...in an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie type way.
hope you find your niche, man! it can be pretty fulfilling to translate your thoughts to beats and music.
and...if you end up doin the melodic stuff, more power to ya! just dont fall for the cheese!
Message 11/11 24-Jan-04 @ 03:35 PM - RE: Getting Started.
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well, most of us
well, most of us
i wish there was a coughing smilie face.....
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