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Subject: bringing snares in early/late
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Original Message 1/12 08-Sep-03 @ 08:34 PM - bringing snares in early/late
What does this actually achieve and is it any good? Does it become sloppy at some point? What else needs moving forward - Can a 4/4 drum loop have the second and 4th kicks moved forward in this manner?
Thanks,
pokey.
Message 2/12 08-Sep-03 @ 10:16 PM - RE: bringing snares in early/late
Message 3/12 08-Sep-03 @ 10:25 PM - RE: bringing snares in early/late
Different story with breakbeats, as long as you don't shift so far they're out of time, you can add some urgency to a track with a snare a bit ahead of beat... or swing if you push it forward.
Hats are fair game...
few (if any) drummers play right on time, it's that "human feel... ya know? some electronic music benefits from that feel, but for some, it's the mechanical timing of dance music that makes it so solid, so "danceable"... it all depends on the track and the people listening to it..
There, that was fairly worthless, eh?
e
Message 4/12 08-Sep-03 @ 11:00 PM - RE: bringing snares in early/late
Message 5/12 08-Sep-03 @ 11:09 PM - RE: bringing snares in early/late
Snares can be the same...
shrug.. talkt o folks a lot who make trance and can't understand why their tracks lack energy, or sound like "fast house"... and the secret's all in the decay/sustain times!!!
e
Message 6/12 08-Sep-03 @ 11:13 PM - RE: bringing snares in early/late
but yeah, seems you can do a lot just with ADSR instead of messing with the groove.
Message 7/12 08-Sep-03 @ 11:37 PM - RE: bringing snares in early/late
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Message 8/12 09-Sep-03 @ 12:26 AM - RE: bringing snares in early/late
When a shuffle or swing is applied to a drum loop, doesn't it just shift the off beat parts around and leave the 4 beats more or less stationary?
Just wondering...
pokey.
Message 9/12 09-Sep-03 @ 12:41 AM - RE: bringing snares in early/late
And when you say "drum-loops" do you mean midi sequenced drum patterns? or audio loops?
Not sure how long you've been at this stuff, or how much you know... so I don't want to assume...
e
Message 10/12 09-Sep-03 @ 12:45 AM Edit: 09-Sep-03 | 12:46 AM - RE: bringing snares in early/late
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it shuffles what u want it to shuffle, depending on
which buttons you push! and ur next question would be
'what do i want to shuffle?' ANswer= don't shuffle the
kiks or snares! shuffle the percussive bits, hats, etc.
think of the kiks and snares as the skeleton, the
foundation= solid. but yeah, swing the hell outta
everything else (67% shuffle) and funky beats will
surely ensue.
dude- try this sh*t out for yourself! i mean asking is
cool too but c'mon, try it out! ;-)
Message 11/12 09-Sep-03 @ 03:32 AM - RE: bringing snares in early/late
if it' don't feel good...nix it.
all beats should be different....i mean....keep em tight as possible and rocking sure...but play around. experiment....but mostly have fun and don't let no rules bog you dowwwwn.
what milan was saying about the attack/decay thing is something i try to play with sometimes.
but i've never established any formula as to what works for all music. no one can really say. as what works for one song might completely suck for another.
Message 12/12 09-Sep-03 @ 06:14 PM - RE: bringing snares in early/late
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