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Subject: how do I score?
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Original Message 1/17 20-Oct-03 @ 06:28 PM - how do I score?
my immediate goal is to add my music to some animation to be created by my man mr. medow
http://www.medow.com
but I'd like this to be the first of many such projects.
another part of my motivation in asking this question: a friend thought my music would be of interest to a company that is looking for "composers with a home studio that has the ability to sync audio and video" (from thier ad). I took the lack of specificity in the ad to indicate that they don't really care how you do it. Without trying to pass myself off as a multimedia veteran, I'd like to be able to respond to them with at least SOME ability to sync audio/video.
If I just want to add my music to digital video--not edit or create video myself--would something as simple as Acid 4 work ok?
Should I only consider more complex multimedia stuff e.g. Nuendo if I'm serious (I am)? By "serious" I mean I don't just want to add sound efx to home movies, but not that I need the "industry-standard", whatever that may be and mean.
obviously I don't know much about this so any advice you could give me would be much appreciated.
(I will be working on Windows XP Home).
Message 2/17 20-Oct-03 @ 06:35 PM - RE: how do I score?
if you get the video on vhs get a cheap arse capture card and make sure there's burnt-in-time-code on it (BITC) (you'll have to use a video editing prog to get it back in sync if it's a long clip)
if you get it as flash then get them to save that out of flash as a movie - quicktime, avi whatever is possible.
if you gert it as dvd then you can rip that off the dvd. i've ended up having to encode as divx to get the file size down to something that my computer could handle (as well as running nice reverbs, vsti etc.) it's nice but not essential to have bitc on these but it'll be ok if you put a sync "beep" on a usefull bit at the begining of the video clip.
i used logic, not fantastic but definately useable (last thing i did was a 70 minute docu/film). if acid can play video then use that and see how it works. i'm thinking of getting nuendo or sonar for future use. anything i missed just fire away.
Message 3/17 20-Oct-03 @ 06:46 PM - RE: how do I score?
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sonic foundry site says Acid can import windows media video files. I dunno all the formats that video comes in but is converting from X format to Windows media video format akin to converting aiff to wav (i.e. maybe a PITA but no big deal)?
bedwyr forever.
Message 5/17 20-Oct-03 @ 10:01 PM - RE: how do I score?
we get the guys to send us avi's and open 'em in logic's video window - ten just compose away - we tend to compose without vid, then edit to fit.
Message 7/17 21-Oct-03 @ 03:24 AM - RE: how do I score?
"(I will be working on Windows XP Home). "= PC
There are tools available to convert to WMV, but are you sure that's all Acid can import?
You also have to consider delivery format... DVD?
That means more tools...
psy
Message 8/17 21-Oct-03 @ 03:24 AM Edit: 21-Oct-03 | 03:26 AM - RE: how do I score?
Message 9/17 21-Oct-03 @ 06:40 AM - RE: how do I score?
might be worth a fun try.
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Message 10/17 21-Oct-03 @ 07:28 AM - RE: how do I score?
you're not excpected to sync up the audio/video yourself - dubbing studio does that when they turn your fantastic musical creation down so they can hear the shit "footsteps on stone floor" foley that the editor recorded in his bathroom on his day off.
Message 11/17 21-Oct-03 @ 03:00 PM - RE: how do I score?
that's the link to the acid 4 page, influx. being so unfamiliar with video, I don't if it's missing some really essential functionality. elsewhere, people said SX is great for scoring.
beds: "you're not excpected to sync up the audio/video yourself".
but these people I'm being urged to get in touch with explicitly wrote they need composers with "the ability to sync audio and video".
maybe by this they just mean writing the music to match the video playing along in it's own window/lane/whatever but the musician doesn't have to worry about perfect sync of audio/video events; the dubbing house nudges the audio/video around until it's where they want it?
would that describe what's commonly expected of the score-writer?
thanks again. this seems fun.
Message 12/17 22-Oct-03 @ 12:34 AM - RE: how do I score?
the dubbing house HATES having to jump individual bits of the music track around - they are the same ppl who put the foley/voiceover/etc. so they want to concentrate on the mix (on bigger than animation budget stuff they've already done the spot effects and voice sync nudging around nonsense before you get there)
video editors who also have the job of putting on the sound usually like editing the soundtrack - THIS IS BAD!
ways to impress animator/video editor/dubbing mixer -
- make a wicked soundtrack
err... that's it.
+ ask for a digitised copy of the film with bitc (sometimes pronounced bitsee),
provide a clear start point for your music/sounds - .wav starting at 10.00.00.00 on bitc is the best - otherwise just the first frame of non-black or significant cut.
make sure it stays in sync (rippable-cd/wav covers this if you write to 'properly' digitized version)
give the video editor an early copy of the soundtrack
ps - are we assuming animation is finished and your input is after? if the director wants to edit to picture you just provide a soundtrack and editor/director edit to your pace...
Message 14/17 22-Oct-03 @ 03:49 AM - RE: how do I score?
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Message 15/17 22-Oct-03 @ 06:21 AM - RE: how do I score?
Message 16/17 22-Oct-03 @ 12:20 PM - RE: how do I score?
! ask me something!
Message 17/17 22-Oct-03 @ 02:30 PM - RE: how do I score?
the animation project will be easy as he wants to animate to my tunes, but I'd like to learn how to do the reverse.
I guess you have to go through http://www.sonicfoundry.com to get to that page.
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