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Original Message Date: 13-Feb-04 @ 03:29 AM - Hardware effects

HBahnz

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I am curious to know if any of you use hardware effects processors much. And for what?
I dont know if i should just stick to what i have within the s/w or get a multi-processor effects unit. Anyone who has one do you use it much in your tracks?

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Message 11/30 13-Feb-04 @ 09:51 PM - RE: Hardware effects

craig

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some of the FX plugins compare favourably with really high end hardware gear.
(so buying a budget hardware FX processor, will actually not get you the quality of some of the software plugins)

You're almost always going to get a higher quality effect via software than hardware, when comparing solutions with equal price tags. There are exceptions though... Great reverb boxes aren't that super expensive used, and there're some newer ones that are good too. Compressors and gates are convenient to have in hardware if you're going to be doing sidechaining, which seems to always be a bit hokey in software. And if you're a hardware synth guy (like me) it makes more sense to get the vocal out of the PC into a vocoder box that you can run your synth into, rather than recording your synth into the PC to vocode with a vocal. What if you want to futz with the keyboard patch? Of course you could use input monitoring but there's yet another step.

A lot of it depends on how you work too.

-Craig

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Message 12/30 14-Feb-04 @ 01:19 AM - RE: Hardware effects

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prolly depends on what kinda plugs your on just now, and what your planning on spending on a hardware unit, and also like craig said on the way you plan to work.

if you are planning on buying a budget type fx box all rounder then i wouldnt bother, even the cheapest (and freebie) software plug-in effects just now will do you just as good as say an zoom rfx2000 (which i own btw)

I personally wouldnt put anything i did thru any of those beringher comps/limiters/exciter things either, especially when you think what you can buy for software equivalent money

eg- you can get Waves Renn Maxx Native 4.0 plugs for something like 300-400 squids giving you Renaissance DeEsser, Renaissance Bass, Renaissance Vox, Renaissance Compressor, Renaissance Equalizer, Renaissance Reverb and the absolutely blinding Renaissance Channel. That kinda money in hardware would buy you a couple of cheapo noisy boxes to ruin your recording with.

On the other hand, you maybe looking for something you can line up before you make the recording, so hardware unit would be handy there, depends on how ya plan to do it...

blu

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Message 13/30 14-Feb-04 @ 04:07 AM - RE: Hardware effects

H.Bahnz

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The reason im asking is because my friend has a Tc Elect. Fireworx v.2 he is going to sell me for $500. Which is a great price for that piece of gear. BUT, Do i need it is the question im asking myself, and how much would I use it. That processor is a beast.
Although as most of you have said a lot can be done in the virtual setting. Thanks on your help for the most part.

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Message 14/30 14-Feb-04 @ 06:44 AM - RE: Hardware effects

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Oooooh... you didn't say Fireworx! That is a great price, and I would snatch that puppy right up. If you have a good soundcard with good drivers, it wouldn't be too hard to set that thing up on a track (albiet, one track at a time), and the processing matrix on that thing is the proverbial bomb.

Yes, you will use it. Get it. If I was wrong, sell it to me.

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Message 15/30 14-Feb-04 @ 08:25 AM - RE: Hardware effects

milan

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hehe... yeah, Fireworx is the shiznit... modular system, if you dont like effects make your own by assempling them from modules. and 500$ is a good price i think.

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Message 16/30 14-Feb-04 @ 09:48 AM - RE: Hardware effects

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but can Fireworx do anything he cant acheive using plugs wired in series and utilising bus routing also?

albeit it might be harder to work out without alot of experience, and not exactly the same thing

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Message 17/30 14-Feb-04 @ 06:38 PM - RE: Hardware effects

craig

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Those Fireworx boxes are awesome.. Incredible flange and chorus like you'd expect from a TC box

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Message 18/30 14-Feb-04 @ 07:12 PM - RE: Hardware effects

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if you dont buy the fireworx hit me up at Influx1@adelphia.net. Ill buy it

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Message 19/30 15-Feb-04 @ 06:05 PM - RE: Hardware effects

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Thank you again for the input. I picked it up from him. Im generally pretty new to this stuff, and wasnt sure if it would be prudent for me or not to even think of hardware but, you guys steered me correct. How would i go about hooking this up to my digi and pro-tools to get this to process correctly?

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Message 20/30 15-Feb-04 @ 09:02 PM - RE: Hardware effects

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experiment.

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