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Original Message                 Date: 02-Aug-04  @  03:40 AM   -   Tempo synced h/w Delay

SignalRunners - Andrew

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Hey I'm looking into a hardware delay box. Now this might just be a dumb question, but the only way I'll buy a hardware delay box is if it has a tempo-synced delay IE I can set the delay to 4ths, 8ths etc etc.

Are there such units out there?

I dont want anything special, just a tempo synced delay.

How would this bad-bitch be set up? I'd assume if it would happen it would be midi..maybe clock to host sequencer on a midi output from PC..fuck knows I'm probably dead off.

Thanks alot guys




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Message 11/32             02-Aug-04  @  10:58 PM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

SignalRunners - BLU

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hey,

im on this too- is there a unit with a bpm display to just dial in say, 140 bpm?

doesnt have to be all singin n dancing multi fx, , just a bpm dial-up (although extra is bonus)

blu



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Message 12/32             02-Aug-04  @  11:49 PM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

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So why not just use the appropriate MS setting for your current BPM. Just about every delay effect allows you to set Miliseconds... there's BPM to MS charts all over the internet...

But, the D-Two does show BPM and is infintely adjustable... It's frankly the most specialist, coolest, awesomest delay effect in the whole wide world!

It ain't cheap, even second hand... but it's a great little number...

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Message 13/32             03-Aug-04  @  02:38 AM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

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why do you guys want a hardware delay now?

MIDI tempo sync is usually crap, even on high-end gear. Small disruptions in tempo do not create smooth pitch-shifted delay shifts, it creates pops and clicks. And Midi beat clock is notorious for being glitchy.

Better just to set the delay time yourself. If you need one that can do a gliding delay time, hmmm... better get a PCM42... Or a plugin  



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Message 14/32             03-Aug-04  @  03:56 AM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

Influx

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thats true too. beat calculators

altho...I really never had a problem with the delays I used (only FX I had were a boss VF-1, Alesis Q2V2, lexicon MPX100 and the delays on my old O1v...)

I dunno...we're too picky about timing nowadays anyway



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Message 15/32             03-Aug-04  @  02:10 PM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

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Influx - true dat. Brain fade. I meant to say D-Two.

Although the M-One is nice for flange and chorus  



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Message 16/32             03-Aug-04  @  02:15 PM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

SignalRunners - Andrew

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what part of hardware delay sounds like flange and chorus craig? wtf??

come into chat, i'll tear you a new one



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Message 17/32             03-Aug-04  @  05:49 PM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

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dude!... *heh* - cos flange and chorus ARE delay FX... well ok, flange originated from physicaly manipulating the 'flange' of a tape-machine reel, but in essence it's a delay effect in that you can get frange from a delay unit.

y'know you can always record a copy of the part and manualy paste it in to an audio track with a fade oiut happeing with each repeat and physicaly create your own delays by using those pasted audio repeat parts.

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Message 18/32             03-Aug-04  @  05:59 PM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

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Oh K, you goddmaned do it yourselfer... you're killin' me...

man, my favorite delays (honest) are when I take the time to step write midi notes with dramatically lowered velocities... then my "delays" do whatever I want...

What's coolest about the d-two is you can tap in a beat for your delays to follow... so it's a simple sampler (well, all digital delays are) but you can get some mad ping-ponging effects going if you can tap in time...

hell, guys, digital reverbs are just delay as well... all the spatial digital effects are, reverb, chorus, flange, phaser... they're all models that use delay to do what they do.

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Message 19/32             03-Aug-04  @  06:38 PM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

SignalRunners - Andrew

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(i was kidding K :D)



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Message 20/32             03-Aug-04  @  07:43 PM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

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i was 'using' the sync on the mpx500 with flangers and stuff, where the inaccurate cycling really made a mess..

a h/w box you might like.. migth even have a midi sync, don't remember - the old roland/boss fx racks like the se50 and that 1u blue unit.. great delays, eg. a 5 tap multidelay.. all values set with tiny yamaha-esque tappy buttons so you can dial in a discrete bpm if you hold the little button down a lot. they're the delay bargain.



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