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Original Message Date: 29-Sep-03 @ 09:26 AM - nOOb need tips for producing dance

DJROYRISER2003

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I'm a DJ and I just got a Electribe Mx (the new blue one) and have no experience at all for producing dance tracks, so any tips would help.
Thanks
Peace,
Dj Roy Riser

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Message 21/29 01-Oct-03 @ 07:12 AM - RE: nOOb need tips for producing dance

RagnarOk

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That's what I call self promotion ha!

:-)

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Message 22/29 01-Oct-03 @ 09:36 AM - RE: nOOb need tips for producing dance

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well Roy you have two choices - stay hardware or go s/w

hardware: use the MX as your sequencer, add a sampler & small mixer & a couple of cheap multi-fx units or a delay and a multi-fx whatever to add fx to the sounds.

mix down to your PC and burn from there (or you'll have to get some machine/recorder to mix down onto

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s/w: add a pc midi & audio sequencer into the equation you can import MX patterns and wire the MX into the mix sync'd if you like via a fast asio2 soundcard

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or perhaps think about a s/w like ABLETON which can also be used live but that means getting a decent laptop which add's considerably to the cost. You can use Ableton at home to compose tracks but it's more about live performance which can be tweaked later.

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personaly I'd advise going with a PC sequencer simply because the power-to-price ratio is very high.

But there's nowt wrong with hardware, and hardware is so cheap now s/h cos the bottom's dropped out of the market. If you go hardware you need a sampler for all your loops & to extend your drumsound pallette, also some type of multi-timbrel synth for pads and what have you.

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Message 23/29 01-Oct-03 @ 09:44 AM - RE: nOOb need tips for producing dance

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I've found it, the last civilized thread on the internet. Fighting off the temptation to simply be obnoxious, people here have actually communicated some useful advice to someone asking a question.

Preserve this thread (and perhaps, this forum) in amber before it is too late!

rt

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Message 24/29 01-Oct-03 @ 03:48 PM - RE: nOOb need tips for producing dance

BOO

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Ah cheers - I've been wondering about that for ages.

I've got the ER-1 electribe and it's awesome. That MX is
the one with the tubes. Coo.

I'd get some DAW sofware for recording and mixing all the
parts. You can get an 8 track copy of Pro tools for nothing
these days... Protools free.

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Message 25/29 01-Oct-03 @ 04:14 PM - RE: nOOb need tips for producing dance

DJROYRISER2003

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Thanks for all the advice everyone.

I think I know what to do, I'm gonna go half and half, mostly because I like having the knobs and pads at my finger tips, and being able to make a beat on the fly. So I'm thinking my next mission is to build myself a new tower. Anyone got any reccomendations on soundcards? Please no one tell me Audigy or anything like that I want studio quality not Best Buy quality.
Thanks again for all your help,
Roy Riser

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Message 26/29 01-Oct-03 @ 04:26 PM - RE: nOOb need tips for producing dance

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for a soundcard check out the m-audio stuff they reasonably priced and great quality. I love my delta 44 and I've heard alot of good things about the audiophile. another option is to get on of thoes all in one midi controler/audio interface keyboards. I think m-audio makes one and novation does as well. or the tascam us428 (i think thats what its called) audio interface plus control surface/mixer all in one. I have heard good things about that one as well. I'm sure other people can fill you in on the details....I haven't been soundcard shopping in a long time.

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Message 27/29 01-Oct-03 @ 07:13 PM - RE: nOOb need tips for producing dance

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midiman audiophile 24/96, or, hoontech dsp24/96 (either the VALUE version or the MKII) WITH the optional midi i/o & s/pdif bracket - or the terretec thingy (Cant remember the name) they are all worth a look - I tend to recommend the hoontech myself as it has a CD connector which the audiophile doesnt, and I think the asio driver for the hoontech are better, but the audiophile works good with Cubase SX etc.

if you get a fast card like that then you can do the following:

sync the MX to the s/w host sequencer so it plays it's internal patterns in sync.

Bring the MX audio OUt's (stereo) IN to the soundcard L/R inputs

Have the MX playing along in realtime on the host sequencer s/w mixer alongside any sequenced s/w synths, drums, and audio loops and parts etc.

You could also sequence the MX from the s/w host sequencer, IF it's internal; sounds are sequence-able from an external midi source (I dunno this box)

An athlon 200-2400 has gobs of power and there's masses of freeware VSTi synths & drumboxes etc to choose from to make great sounds, as well as tons fo freeware VST fx, from compressors & gates to filters, delays, reverbs etc etc etc... most of which can be automated to do stuff like automated filter moves etc etc....

If you then add a midi keyboard you can play the s/w synths along with the composition in realtime, hearing the s/w synths etc trigger as you hit the keys in realtime!... Just like playing a hardware unit from a master keyboard!

It's amazing when you first get a system like that and play the s/w in realtime!

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Message 28/29 01-Oct-03 @ 07:15 PM Edit: 01-Oct-03 | 07:40 PM - RE: nOOb need tips for producing dance

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yeah... M-audio Audiophile will suit you much better than any "blaster" out there. plus you'll be able to play s/w synths in realtime, thanks to good drivers.

oops. k posted just before me

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Message 29/29 02-Oct-03 @ 02:01 AM - RE: nOOb need tips for producing dance

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I agree that M-Audio cards are the best all-around for production on a PC. RME is awesome too if you can afford it. But I wouldn't recommend Terratec based on my personal experiences.

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