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Subject: inserts and pedals and shitballs oh my
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Original Message 1/3 27-Sep-98 @ 05:11 AM - inserts and pedals and shitballs oh my
Ok...i mentioned it before and got no response...HOW IN DEE-HAIL DO I GET CHANNEL INSERTS TO WORK?
i know that they use trs jacks, and you get different results from inserting the plug to one click or two...but i've no clue how to use them with my guitar pedals, or whether i should.
the only reason it's problem is this: i had my delay pedal hooked up to aux send/return 1...ok, it works great...but when i record by using one of my aux sends connected to my sound card, sounds come out un-effected...that is if i hear delay, it doesn't come across in the recording because it doesn't send the effected signal to the other aux sends. so how do i do this? i can't use the main outs because i usually overdub a lead part on my synth, and i want to record ONLY the synth, not the output of Making Waves...but I do want to be able to HEAR the MW output. Aux sends work great for this purpose but not if i can't get an effected signal through there...as it is now i have to repatch, and run my synth's output straight through the delay pedal (and of course have to change all the delay parameters around) to record a sound with FX. any tips?
also how can i get a stereo output from my cr1604 (the old one) to go both to my monitors and to my sound card? would a simple line splitter do it or is there some kind of secret output i should know about. (the old one doesn't have the RCA tape outs...how sad.)
i know that they use trs jacks, and you get different results from inserting the plug to one click or two...but i've no clue how to use them with my guitar pedals, or whether i should.
the only reason it's problem is this: i had my delay pedal hooked up to aux send/return 1...ok, it works great...but when i record by using one of my aux sends connected to my sound card, sounds come out un-effected...that is if i hear delay, it doesn't come across in the recording because it doesn't send the effected signal to the other aux sends. so how do i do this? i can't use the main outs because i usually overdub a lead part on my synth, and i want to record ONLY the synth, not the output of Making Waves...but I do want to be able to HEAR the MW output. Aux sends work great for this purpose but not if i can't get an effected signal through there...as it is now i have to repatch, and run my synth's output straight through the delay pedal (and of course have to change all the delay parameters around) to record a sound with FX. any tips?
also how can i get a stereo output from my cr1604 (the old one) to go both to my monitors and to my sound card? would a simple line splitter do it or is there some kind of secret output i should know about. (the old one doesn't have the RCA tape outs...how sad.)
Message 2/3 27-Sep-98 @ 06:24 PM - RE: inserts and pedals and shitballs oh my
all ya gotta do is take a stereo plus... and wire it to 2 mono ones.... check which is the send & return on the stereo one... either tip or ring...... then send it into your pedal....
Message 3/3 28-Sep-98 @ 05:18 PM - RE: inserts and pedals and shitballs oh my
doesn't the cr1604 have tape outs?
anyway you can do this without inserts if you return
back to a regular channel i.e. not through the aux
return. so send on aux send 1, return on, say channel 1.
then you can turn up the aux send for the soundcard,
on that channel. you can also do cool feedback effects
by sending the return from the delay back to the delay..
lots of fun.
if you're using the cr1604's tape outs for tape,
you can use the tape outs to send to the soundcard,
it will go through while recording. also, if you're
too cheap for an amp and are using like a home stereo,
they usually have more than one tape out, you can use
one for tape and the other to the soundcard (or sampler,
or whatever). a patchbay might help too. mine has a
tape out to tape, and one to the VCR...that one works...
anyway you can do this without inserts if you return
back to a regular channel i.e. not through the aux
return. so send on aux send 1, return on, say channel 1.
then you can turn up the aux send for the soundcard,
on that channel. you can also do cool feedback effects
by sending the return from the delay back to the delay..
lots of fun.
if you're using the cr1604's tape outs for tape,
you can use the tape outs to send to the soundcard,
it will go through while recording. also, if you're
too cheap for an amp and are using like a home stereo,
they usually have more than one tape out, you can use
one for tape and the other to the soundcard (or sampler,
or whatever). a patchbay might help too. mine has a
tape out to tape, and one to the VCR...that one works...
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