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Original Message                 Date: 02-Aug-04  @  03:40 AM   -   Tempo synced h/w Delay

SignalRunners - Andrew

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Hey I'm looking into a hardware delay box. Now this might just be a dumb question, but the only way I'll buy a hardware delay box is if it has a tempo-synced delay IE I can set the delay to 4ths, 8ths etc etc.

Are there such units out there?

I dont want anything special, just a tempo synced delay.

How would this bad-bitch be set up? I'd assume if it would happen it would be midi..maybe clock to host sequencer on a midi output from PC..fuck knows I'm probably dead off.

Thanks alot guys




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Message 21/32             03-Aug-04  @  09:42 PM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

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Actually phasers are generally bandpass filters and an LFO, but we're really digressing now  



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Message 22/32             03-Aug-04  @  10:07 PM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

SignalRunners - BLU

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aw, ive missed these talks



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Message 23/32             03-Aug-04  @  11:04 PM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

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you're right of course about phazers... I got carried away in making my point...

I'm sure if I dug deep enough I could argue amp sims and distortion as delay efx as well... actually, digital distortion efx might be...

but what do I know?

e



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Message 24/32             04-Aug-04  @  01:50 AM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

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NOW you're reaching, dude. I was with it, but now...
A phaser is a little more complex than simply band-passes with LFOs. It's more like all-pass filters with LFOs on the frequencies, which are in fact...band-specific delays. Distortion is typically NOT a delay function. But back on topic...I'd say that you should try to find a used MPX1. They are not so expensive, especially considering what they can do for your sound. My next box will probably be either an MPX1 or a PCM70. Of course if you could afford it, I'd say that you should look at a TC 2290, but those are old, and expensive, still I doubt any delay sounds better. The Line6 is cool. My better half uses one, as well as lots of instrumentalists I know. It seems to work incredibly effectively, but doesn't sync to midi. You just tap the tempo, or knob it. Occasionally for a really cheesy delay, I'll use my Evolver. It does do synched delays, as does the AdrenaLinn, but the AdrenaLinn is more geared for external processing.

Ape



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Message 25/32             04-Aug-04  @  05:13 AM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

Influx

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"but doesn't sync to midi" re: Line6 Echo Pro?

better check on that one again, bro



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Message 26/32             04-Aug-04  @  05:17 AM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

Influx

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"MIDI Clock and Delay Time Control
One of the coolest things you can do with delay and echo effects is sync them
up to your music (something we like to call the “Follow The Bouncing Ball
Effect”). The note value parameter of the Echo Pro makes this very easy to do,
once you’ve tapped in the tempo. But there’s an even easier way. If you’re in
the studio, and you’re using a MIDI sequencer, all you have to do is set that
sequencer to transmit MIDI Clock to the Echo Pro, and tell the Echo Pro to pay attention
to MIDI Clock. Once Echo Pro receives that MIDI Clock from the sequencer (or other
device, like a drum machine), it will lock right up to it. How can you do this, you ask?
1. Press the MIDI/SYS button to get into MIDI/SYS mode.
2. Turn the Program Select Knob until the display shows: “CL”.
3. Turn the Time knob until you see: “ON”.
4. Press MIDI/SYS to go back to Program mode.
When MIDI Clock is on, the Global Button will light, and will blink once a second to
indicate that your Echo Pro is not yet locked to MIDI Clock pulses if that is the case.
(Since most sequencers only send clock pulses while the sequence is actually running, it
is normal for this to be the case when the sequencer is stopped.) Once your Echo Pro
sees valid incoming MIDI clock, the Global button will light solid, and the Tap Tempo
button with start to flash at the current tempo of the sequencer. When you stop the
sequence, or if the Echo Pro loses the clock for more than two seconds, the Global
button will once again start to blink, but the Tap Tempo will stay at its last received
value."

Pg62 (chapter 5-9)

just thought you guys might be missing out on a useable feature



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Message 27/32             04-Aug-04  @  05:20 AM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

casparproject

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Should I feel ashamed that I am now using sw to do all of this? Have I gone over
to the dark side?



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Message 28/32             04-Aug-04  @  08:40 AM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

Influx

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I have, too...no shame, man, but...I dunno...Ive got to admit that Im not as keen about writing music as I used to be

could be due to any number of factors though...but I suspect that part of it is about losing touch or the like...

anyway...



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Message 29/32             04-Aug-04  @  02:50 PM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

craig

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I use software for this stuff while recording, but live my Sony DPS-V55 takes care of it. FYI, I don't worry about syncing the delay to MIDI clock. Just calculating the delay time using the BPM is enough. Often I just do it by ear.



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Message 30/32             04-Aug-04  @  05:59 PM   -   RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay

Pongoid

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Sorry, Influx. I was talkin about the little green stombox Delay Modeler.

Ape



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