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Original Message                 Date: 11-Sep-03  @  01:43 PM   -   2 years ago today

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R-Tek Steve was ruining my breakfast talking about some disgusting thing you brits eat when I saw the first plane hit outside my office window. I was touched to find people at dancetech worried about me when I got home and online about 4 hours later. Thanks all.

Now let me eat my breakfast in peace this morning. What was that stuff anyway? Marmut something or other mixed with some kind of white gooey stuff? Yuck.




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Message 21/32             12-Sep-03  @  02:27 AM   -   RE: 2 years ago today

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Yeah, I read about the Chilean 9/11 in the Economist and CSM this week. They definitely left that one out of the American history books I read. Although, to be fair, my classes never got past WWII. Seemed we ran out of time...



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Message 22/32             12-Sep-03  @  05:45 AM     Edit: 12-Sep-03  |  05:46 AM   -   RE: 2 years ago today

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JF, I heard something on NPR recently about that little debacle. Its good to see truth spreading. Well done.

Two years ago...

About three or four weeks later a friend and I left a club at around midnight. I had told her earlier that I had no desire to go anywhere near the site but after walking for about an hour we ended up in Tribeca. We came upon one of the many impromptu memorials at one of the many fences surrounding the area. There was a cop guarding the area but he didn't say or do anything when we crossed the line and began re-lighting some of the candles that had blown out. There were dozens upon dozens of them. I didn't chastise Kim for surreptitiously leading us there and we didn't "decide" to re-light the candles - it was what needed to be done, it seemed the right thing to do. After about 15 minutes a few others came upon us and also crossed the line to help. We spent about an hour there and I seem to recall that, at some point, we both began to quietly weep. I know it sounds really cheesy and I can't explain that moment but it was somehow "right" - it was okay to feel for these people we would never know. I really appreciate Kim for that moment.



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Message 23/32             12-Sep-03  @  01:37 PM   -   RE: 2 years ago today

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i cried too, wednesday night, when it sank in.

the post about the chilean terror was not a denial of the sadness of 9/11/01, just a reminder for those other fellow earthlings who went trough this ordeal. i guess posting it on what most americans believe to be "THEIR" mourning day was insensitive.

"one man struggle, while another relaxes"



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Message 24/32             12-Sep-03  @  02:22 PM   -   RE: 2 years ago today

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only through realizing our wrongs can we ever hope to get it right.



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Message 25/32             12-Sep-03  @  02:52 PM   -   RE: 2 years ago today

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as individuals, sure.

but as a collectivity ?



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Message 26/32             12-Sep-03  @  04:16 PM   -   RE: 2 years ago today

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I think it's true on a collective level too.



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Message 27/32             12-Sep-03  @  04:48 PM   -   RE: 2 years ago today

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which is why society will never function properly, because it's founded on a false principle: we don't all want to be together, and until culture makes an allowance for people cooperating but not being unified (americans will scoff since they're all brainwashed to think people belong together, in nice tidy, exploitable groups) you're going to get a mouthful of nails every time.



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Message 28/32             12-Sep-03  @  06:11 PM   -   RE: 2 years ago today

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i meant collectivity as in species, marianimal

there should be a few species fundamentals and an unalterable will to restore and protect diversity down to it's tiniest minute expression.

*passes the bong*



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Message 29/32             12-Sep-03  @  10:36 PM   -   RE: 2 years ago today

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group hug



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Message 30/32             13-Sep-03  @  01:58 AM   -   RE: 2 years ago today

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that's as good as it gets sometimes.



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