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Original Message Date: 20-Jul-04 @ 03:16 PM Edit: 20-Jul-04 | 03:16 PM - Are you BACKED UP?

dARKSTATe

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Based on something I read in SoS, I got to thinkin (this has probably been covered off here recently but what the hey?! eh?!)

(Oh, and this could also probably be in the PC Music forum but it applies to Mac and linux heads, as well so here we are..)

How often to people back-up? I mean honestly? And what kinda processes do you go through? Just bung it all on DVDR? Use an app which helps devise backup schemes? Manually pick through and compress stuff before copying to CDR? Use portable harddrives? Backup to servers on a personal LAN?

Also, this Monkey's Audio file compressor looks damn nice... according to these specs anyway.. but do people still bother to crush stuff?!

http://www.monkeysaudio.com/comparison.html

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Message 21/30 22-Jul-04 @ 10:24 PM - RE: Are you BACKED UP?

Zazza

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I have 2 Firewire LaCie 320 GB disks.. a working disc and a backup disk..

The price on these beasties is dropping like a stone..

Also, every so often I backup to DVD... dual layer I will wait for the pioneer I think..

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Message 22/30 23-Jul-04 @ 01:23 AM Edit: 23-Jul-04 | 01:29 AM - RE: Are you BACKED UP?

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Hydro, that's a really bad way to back up, in my opinion. Aside from the headache of all those discs, think about it: You're paying over $12 per gigabyte to back up. That's too much in this day and age.

For $25 more than a used Zip250, get THIS burner and get a 10 pack of these for $10 and yer set for 47 gigs of pure backup enjoyment at a bargain basement price of under 22 cents a gig! You go boy!

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Message 23/30 26-Jul-04 @ 02:21 PM - RE: Are you BACKED UP?

craig

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Zip drives aren't as reliable as you're being led to believe. The drives sometimes break, taking the disks with them, and magnetic media isn't going to have the same shelf life as optical.

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Message 24/30 26-Jul-04 @ 10:52 PM - RE: Are you BACKED UP?

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too true... often a dead zip drive will screw up the disk in it on the way out... I've had it happen, twice... zip drive dead fo rnew discernable reason!!! no good

I keep CDR's of each project, and back up via network to my family PC (from the studio PC)... each piece/song/track (whatever yo wnat to call it) usualy get's it's own disk... i know that's a bit wasteful, but it allows me to organize with more efficiency and the media is cheap.

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Message 25/30 27-Jul-04 @ 11:03 AM - RE: Are you BACKED UP?

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imo, as there's no real 'safe' archive for a reasonable budget (even CD's can fuck up) i think backing up to networked drives and moving data again as HD's fail is best, continual backup managment so-to-speak... although sure, that's not too realistic for most people who only have the one PC, but it IS very cost effective as HD's are so cheap - it may be worth picking up some old cheap s/h PC just for that job

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Message 26/30 27-Jul-04 @ 12:58 PM - RE: Are you BACKED UP?

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indeed, its not the tech its the operation, automatics

I am looking at/getting a 200gb hd for backing up and running a mirror process on a weekly nbasis

there was a product that looked good - Mirra, essentially a linux machine which did back up automatically and for cable internet guys (24/7) files would be served to anywhere through the main companies file info on the device - OK you got to trust mirra but me I say there is no security get over it

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Message 27/30 27-Jul-04 @ 03:22 PM - RE: Are you BACKED UP?

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i just remembered quicksync from iomega. it came with my zip drive. now it looks after my logic tracks, backing up (at my request or once a day) all new and changed files to a network drive. it can do revisions as well - like it keeps the last x versions of a file.

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Message 28/30 27-Jul-04 @ 10:13 PM Edit: 27-Jul-04 | 10:16 PM - RE: Are you BACKED UP?

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At the end of my session, I back up all new files on a CDRW. This includes OrionPro files (my virtual studio), .wav, .mp3, etc. My CDRW directories mirror my hard drive file structure. Then every three months I burn CDRs of ALL my music files.

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Message 29/30 27-Jul-04 @ 11:21 PM - RE: Are you BACKED UP?

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howdyamean?... after each session... before a song is finished, while the track is being developed?... or just at the end after mixing & finalising everything?

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Message 30/30 29-Jul-04 @ 07:23 PM - RE: Are you BACKED UP?

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The answer to all of your questions is "yes"

. The reason being is that my writing/recording/mixing methods are a bit unorthodox. For one thing, I don't write the song, then mix, and then master. I do all three as I go along since I use virtual studio software. I actually have a compressor as a master effect on all my trax as I write! A little different, I know, but it works for me.

So everytime I change or add something to a song, I save that file as a new file. At the end of the day, I go to my music directory where all of my songs are stored and do a search for all the new files I made that day. I copy these new files to my CDRW where I have a mirror image of my hard drive music directories. I never have to overwrite my song files either since I save a new file everytime I change something, which looks something like this: "Song Name 07-29-04."

Since all of my music files (songs, mp3's, samples, synth patches/presets, etc.) are stored in the same root directory, when I do a search for new files everything comes up! That way I see all of the new files I made that day and copy them to the appropriate CDRW for backup. It may sound convoluted, but it takes me literally less than 2 minutes to back up all of my new work for a day and I have two copies of all of my files at all times: one on the hard drive and one on CDRW.

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