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Subject: Tempo synced h/w Delay
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Original Message 1/32 02-Aug-04 @ 03:40 AM - Tempo synced h/w Delay
Are there such units out there?
I dont want anything special, just a tempo synced delay.
How would this bad-bitch be set up? I'd assume if it would happen it would be midi..maybe clock to host sequencer on a midi output from PC..fuck knows I'm probably dead off.
Thanks alot guys
Message 2/32 02-Aug-04 @ 07:13 AM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
i know my lexicon mpx 100s have that but i just use tap-tempo.....you know... just to maintain my high-standard sloppiness...one less cable and less programming.
basically it's midi-in and you select the parameter.
Message 3/32 02-Aug-04 @ 08:41 AM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
Message 4/32 02-Aug-04 @ 09:11 AM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
honestly..have a look at the Line6 Echo Pro, man. Just...try one out if you can. full midi sync, and many many different delay types
digital, of course...but...for the price? shiiiiit. Ive seen em for less than $200 here
Message 6/32 02-Aug-04 @ 03:52 PM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
but i've read unanimous reviews about their distortion claiming it is the noisiest unit around.
so check out those outputs....first.
Message 7/32 02-Aug-04 @ 07:29 PM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
Message 8/32 02-Aug-04 @ 08:22 PM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
Message 9/32 02-Aug-04 @ 08:34 PM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
nice sounding unit tho.
Message 10/32 02-Aug-04 @ 10:13 PM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
xoxos...I had an MPX100 long ago, and it seemed to sync up just fine to midi clock...
maybe your clock source is unreliable?
Message 11/32 02-Aug-04 @ 10:58 PM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
im on this too- is there a unit with a bpm display to just dial in say, 140 bpm?
doesnt have to be all singin n dancing multi fx, , just a bpm dial-up (although extra is bonus)
blu
Message 12/32 02-Aug-04 @ 11:49 PM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
But, the D-Two does show BPM and is infintely adjustable... It's frankly the most specialist, coolest, awesomest delay effect in the whole wide world!
It ain't cheap, even second hand... but it's a great little number...
e
Message 13/32 03-Aug-04 @ 02:38 AM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
MIDI tempo sync is usually crap, even on high-end gear. Small disruptions in tempo do not create smooth pitch-shifted delay shifts, it creates pops and clicks. And Midi beat clock is notorious for being glitchy.
Better just to set the delay time yourself. If you need one that can do a gliding delay time, hmmm... better get a PCM42... Or a plugin
Message 14/32 03-Aug-04 @ 03:56 AM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
altho...I really never had a problem with the delays I used (only FX I had were a boss VF-1, Alesis Q2V2, lexicon MPX100 and the delays on my old O1v...)
I dunno...we're too picky about timing nowadays anyway
Message 15/32 03-Aug-04 @ 02:10 PM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
Although the M-One is nice for flange and chorus
Message 16/32 03-Aug-04 @ 02:15 PM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
come into chat, i'll tear you a new one
Message 17/32 03-Aug-04 @ 05:49 PM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
y'know you can always record a copy of the part and manualy paste it in to an audio track with a fade oiut happeing with each repeat and physicaly create your own delays by using those pasted audio repeat parts.
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Message 18/32 03-Aug-04 @ 05:59 PM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
man, my favorite delays (honest) are when I take the time to step write midi notes with dramatically lowered velocities... then my "delays" do whatever I want...
What's coolest about the d-two is you can tap in a beat for your delays to follow... so it's a simple sampler (well, all digital delays are) but you can get some mad ping-ponging effects going if you can tap in time...
hell, guys, digital reverbs are just delay as well... all the spatial digital effects are, reverb, chorus, flange, phaser... they're all models that use delay to do what they do.
e
Message 20/32 03-Aug-04 @ 07:43 PM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
a h/w box you might like.. migth even have a midi sync, don't remember - the old roland/boss fx racks like the se50 and that 1u blue unit.. great delays, eg. a 5 tap multidelay.. all values set with tiny yamaha-esque tappy buttons so you can dial in a discrete bpm if you hold the little button down a lot. they're the delay bargain.
Message 21/32 03-Aug-04 @ 09:42 PM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
Message 23/32 03-Aug-04 @ 11:04 PM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
I'm sure if I dug deep enough I could argue amp sims and distortion as delay efx as well... actually, digital distortion efx might be...
but what do I know?
e
Message 24/32 04-Aug-04 @ 01:50 AM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
A phaser is a little more complex than simply band-passes with LFOs. It's more like all-pass filters with LFOs on the frequencies, which are in fact...band-specific delays. Distortion is typically NOT a delay function. But back on topic...I'd say that you should try to find a used MPX1. They are not so expensive, especially considering what they can do for your sound. My next box will probably be either an MPX1 or a PCM70. Of course if you could afford it, I'd say that you should look at a TC 2290, but those are old, and expensive, still I doubt any delay sounds better. The Line6 is cool. My better half uses one, as well as lots of instrumentalists I know. It seems to work incredibly effectively, but doesn't sync to midi. You just tap the tempo, or knob it. Occasionally for a really cheesy delay, I'll use my Evolver. It does do synched delays, as does the AdrenaLinn, but the AdrenaLinn is more geared for external processing.
Ape
Message 25/32 04-Aug-04 @ 05:13 AM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
better check on that one again, bro
Message 26/32 04-Aug-04 @ 05:17 AM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
One of the coolest things you can do with delay and echo effects is sync them
up to your music (something we like to call the “Follow The Bouncing Ball
Effect”). The note value parameter of the Echo Pro makes this very easy to do,
once you’ve tapped in the tempo. But there’s an even easier way. If you’re in
the studio, and you’re using a MIDI sequencer, all you have to do is set that
sequencer to transmit MIDI Clock to the Echo Pro, and tell the Echo Pro to pay attention
to MIDI Clock. Once Echo Pro receives that MIDI Clock from the sequencer (or other
device, like a drum machine), it will lock right up to it. How can you do this, you ask?
1. Press the MIDI/SYS button to get into MIDI/SYS mode.
2. Turn the Program Select Knob until the display shows: “CL”.
3. Turn the Time knob until you see: “ON”.
4. Press MIDI/SYS to go back to Program mode.
When MIDI Clock is on, the Global Button will light, and will blink once a second to
indicate that your Echo Pro is not yet locked to MIDI Clock pulses if that is the case.
(Since most sequencers only send clock pulses while the sequence is actually running, it
is normal for this to be the case when the sequencer is stopped.) Once your Echo Pro
sees valid incoming MIDI clock, the Global button will light solid, and the Tap Tempo
button with start to flash at the current tempo of the sequencer. When you stop the
sequence, or if the Echo Pro loses the clock for more than two seconds, the Global
button will once again start to blink, but the Tap Tempo will stay at its last received
value."
Pg62 (chapter 5-9)
just thought you guys might be missing out on a useable feature
Message 27/32 04-Aug-04 @ 05:20 AM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
to the dark side?
Message 28/32 04-Aug-04 @ 08:40 AM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
could be due to any number of factors though...but I suspect that part of it is about losing touch or the like...
anyway...
Message 29/32 04-Aug-04 @ 02:50 PM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
Message 30/32 04-Aug-04 @ 05:59 PM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
Ape
Message 31/32 04-Aug-04 @ 07:11 PM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
I guess theres always "use your ears" huh...get the delay sounding right that way? Hard to do with multitaps and odd patterns...
Message 32/32 04-Aug-04 @ 09:03 PM - RE: Tempo synced h/w Delay
-Craig
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