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Subject: English think that they can make tracks?
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Original Message 1/49 04-Jul-98 @ 11:39 PM - English think that they can make tracks?
Message 2/49 05-Jul-98 @ 01:02 AM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Message 3/49 05-Jul-98 @ 02:04 AM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
These "i never can hear them anymore" - Pizzicato Sequences came up
through a "pioneer" ( - Track ) called "Insomnia".
Insomnia´s Pizzicato - Riff was way cool and "new", also (and because
of this,) the Track become a big Hit. Remember ?
A phat Sequence placed at the right point inside a Track - Arrangement.
Also .. hehehe ... no filtering ! .... just raw accords ! ... isn´t this unbelievable ?
Maybe the whole Equipment used for this was not too expensive.... i could hear the
mastering harddrive while i listened to the track... it was a cheap 2 gig one....
just ide, no scsi !
Now, many of our "so cool and inscene music artists" copied the idea of Insomnia
to make some of their "own" "pizzi - tracks".
For gettin´ really cool yet because of doin´ it too now. For becoming a "deeper member"
of tha " elektrik music and club szene" and of course for making some "easy money"
doing stupid music for stupid drug - junkies who don´t care about music, just in being high
and have an "easy and kickin´ dance" on a party.
Not at least to get an also stupid but of course hot´n sexy bitch outa there for pumpin´ their
stuff inside her body.
The Quality of all followed "commercial Pizzicato Riffs" have never reached the
same level like it was in "Insomnia".
So often it was just a "cheap" Seqence or a bad Arrangement or stupid
Filter Tweaked one... Most was "mega -Trash" and a very(!) blatant ripp-off from
the original Thing ...
Maybe Insomnia is cool because the "P-Riff" there was "developed"
by a Female Artist ?! ...... who really knows that ? ;-)
I for myself can defently make Tracks and don´t need to steal or copy ideas.
I´m, also cool enough although the people here don´t know that i do music !
Is this maybe because i am a male or not born in England ?
Hey, i can answer your questin with "NO!"
you´re a bloody motherfuckin´ PissHead, you who have started this threat !
In every way - also if you wanna tell me now you just did it because you are
a "Scientist" who wants to "research" something with your post....
Fuck you !
You remind me a lil´ bit to some unhappy things of germany´s near past
(like: yeah - let us shoot all the british dance music producers !
They´re so bad and eating fish´n chips - they defently don´t deserve to do dance
tracks... They "pollute" us with their work ! yeah - we have to burn them, kill em all ! )
you´re just a stupid Asshole Mr. "not even" !!!!!
Holger Bahr
Message 5/49 05-Jul-98 @ 05:59 AM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Jeremy Arsenault
Message 6/49 05-Jul-98 @ 06:32 AM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Message 7/49 05-Jul-98 @ 07:52 AM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
out...
Message 8/49 05-Jul-98 @ 08:00 AM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Sorry Not Even if you didn't write this thread, but you're still a dick!
Jeremy Arsenault
arsenaul@niagara.com
Message 9/49 05-Jul-98 @ 08:43 AM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Yeah, this Not Even fellow is turning out to be a bit of a dick.
Pity. Most guys here are really decent and interesting.
Message 10/49 05-Jul-98 @ 08:43 AM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Yeah, this Not Even fellow is turning out to be a bit of a dick.
Pity. Most guys here are really decent and interesting.
Message 11/49 05-Jul-98 @ 10:42 AM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Message 12/49 05-Jul-98 @ 02:21 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Message 13/49 05-Jul-98 @ 03:39 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
And this shit is better reserved for the rant/drivel pages, not tech talk.
Ferg
Message 14/49 05-Jul-98 @ 06:49 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Message 15/49 05-Jul-98 @ 07:04 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Message 16/49 05-Jul-98 @ 07:08 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
As for soccer, I've only been able to watch a few games so far. And here in Toronto if you don't have The Sports Network you have to watch them in Portuguese or Italian.
Message 17/49 05-Jul-98 @ 10:29 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Message 18/49 05-Jul-98 @ 11:15 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
something was invented...I'm sure gambling wasn't invented in the desert but when you think of casinos you think of Las Vegas!! To you Brits Manchester might be the capital of dance but the rest of the world identifies with the phrase "Detroit techno". To Mr. Geek (or whoever
you are), there are better ways of correcting Ferg's mistake than by calling him a "typical dumb yank". Believe me, I'm sure we have our share of idiots on both sides of the pond. Soccer is a great sport...but I'd rather watch the Red Wings win the Stanley Cup Finals any day. Finally, who really gives FUCK, we all love the music in our own weird way, and that's why we're all here....can't we all just just get along?? (had to say it)
Message 19/49 06-Jul-98 @ 03:02 AM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Geek...did you say "Soccer"?...for fucks sake, mate...and your picking on the Ah-Mer-I-Cans?...
Next you'll want some "Jelly" for your toast...
Message 20/49 06-Jul-98 @ 10:33 AM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Actually I think you'll find that the English invented dance music. Whilst you yankee wankers* were still into Bon Jovi and The Bangles and eating your fucking jello, we were forming the foundations for dance. Lets face it this argument can go back to the one about Europeans being better than Yanks thread all those months ago.
* thats if you can find it.
Message 21/49 06-Jul-98 @ 10:34 AM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Actually I think you'll find that the English invented dance music. Whilst you yankee wankers* were still into Bon Jovi and The Bangles and eating your fucking jello, we were forming the foundations for dance. Lets face it this argument can go back to the one about Europeans being better than Yanks thread all those months ago.
* thats if you can find it.
Message 22/49 06-Jul-98 @ 12:11 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Bloody hell, theres an echo in this chat room !
Message 23/49 06-Jul-98 @ 03:41 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
As far as "Jello" goes...
Message 24/49 06-Jul-98 @ 04:43 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
I wanted to be in Debbie Gibson, but that was about it !
Message 25/49 06-Jul-98 @ 06:36 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Don't belive me...you'll see...
Message 26/49 07-Jul-98 @ 04:23 AM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Message 27/49 07-Jul-98 @ 04:59 AM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Incidentally, the reason I heard it on TOTP was that I was born and raised in Dublin. I now live in Toronto, where they obviously don't offer Dance History 101.
Ferg
Message 28/49 07-Jul-98 @ 05:59 AM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Francis Grosso was the first DJ to segue records together into one un-interrupted groove. He spun at a converted church in NYC called the Sanctuary back in 1970.
Kraftwerk make their first US television appearance on Midnight Special. The single was "Autobahn". The year was 1975.
Frankie Knuckles and Larry Levan spin together at The Continental Baths on 49th street in NYC from 1975-1976.
Frankie Knuckles then moved to the Warehouse in Chicago (where House music got it's name) from 1977 until 1983. Actually, Larry Levan was offered the spot but passed. Go figure...
Across town Lil' Louis (French Kiss fame) was running a club called The Future until 1980. At the begining of 1980, Lil' Louis relocated to another club, Horizon West.
Juan Atkins and Rick Davies, as Cybotron, released their first single "Alleys of Your Mind" on their own Deep Space label in 1981. They sold between 9,000 and 10,000 copies in Detroit alone. Look it up...
May 1981 Kraftwerk released "Computer World". The first 32 bars of the album were "the purest, most significant map of Detroit techno's future imaginable".
Also in 1981, Larry Levan had taken the helm at a former truck garage in Manhattan's dockland. Named The Paradise Garage (yup, you guessed it, that where Garage got it's name from), its crowd was largely Black and Puerto Rican. He used three 1200's at once...
1983, Knuckles moves from The Warehouse to a new venue, The Power Plant. Also, Ron Hardy opens The Music Box on Chicago's south side...Ron was addicted to herion at the time...
As of yet though, no offical House Records...then...
1983, Jesse Saunders, also a Chicago DJ, made his own version of a Sergio Mendez/Donna Summers/Michael Jackson bootleg megamix called "On and On". He took the record to the city's only pressing plant (Musical Products owned by Larry Sherman) and sold the track through Imports Inc. on his own Jes Say label. 10,000 copies were sold in 2 months...
1983 - Larry Sherman then went to set up the first House Music Label, Trax. 6 months later, Rocky Jones set up the competing DJ International label, also in Chicago.
1982 Uropa Lula (London) mixes a colossal syth riff (from an Arp Axxe) and a Linn drum machine on a single called "Our Love Has Just Begun".
1983 New Order releases "Blue Monday".
1984 MDMA is classified a Schedule 1 drug (No medical use) by the DEA.
1987 Pete Tong and Terry Farley open The Raid on Tottenham Court Road. Also, The Project in Streatham opens with Trevor Fung and Paul Okenfold at the helm of soon-to-be prime movers including Nicky Holloway, Danny Rampling and Jonny Walker.
1987 M/A/R/R/S astonishes the entire music industry by reaching no. 1 with their track "Pump up the Volume".
1987 Fall - The first significant quantities of Ecstasy arrive in London.
In the summer of 1988, Martin Price (From the Eastern Bloc Record Shop) hooks up with Graham Massey and Gerald Simpson to work on a house-based project which eventually materialised as 808 State...
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Compiled and edited from several sources, including "The History of House" by Chris Kempster, and several old articles of Music Technology and The Mix.
Why??...'cause I'm writing a Movie...
Message 29/49 07-Jul-98 @ 06:42 AM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
How very British of them...... ;)
Message 30/49 07-Jul-98 @ 06:43 AM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Quincy Jones - Instrumental in ensuring New Order's Blue Monday was heard in the US along with many other contributions. Blue Monday is to date the siingle largest selling 12' in the history of music.
Arthur Baker - Mixed and produced confusion (once again new order, I'm not obsesed really!)
Confusion wasn't a big hit but many detroit, chicago, and NY Techno/House artist name it as a huge influence.
Can't think of anymore right now but when they come to me I'll share it with you
Jeremy Arsenault
Message 31/49 07-Jul-98 @ 06:23 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
1. Its only known as Detroit Techno in the States because they're unaware of whats going on in the rest of the world.
2. I reffered to it as "soccer" because yanks wouldn't know what I was talking about if I called it football. Durrhhh.
3. I know that not all Yanks are dumb shits but 90% of them are whilst the other 10% rule the country whilst raking in the dosh. And its the dumb 90% that are brainwashed into being the dumb patriots that they are!
Out.
Message 32/49 07-Jul-98 @ 07:34 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
1. I live in Detroit and honestly a lot of people are unaware of the term Detroit techno unless they are into the
music and a lot of people around here are not. I think the the categorization "Detroit Techno" was solidified in
places other than Detroit or America for that matter. Europe had a lot to with that. There are a lot of Detroit techno musicians that make a living just touring in Europe because they're a Detroit techno artist.
2. I personally refer to it as futbol, being Puerto Rican and all.....;)
3. Are you telling me that more that 10% of you are raking all the dosh (as you put it)? It's the same everywhere. Also, it's probably more like 2% (1% old money, 1% lucky, ruthless motherfucker). I guess I must be a dumb patriot because I like it here! Do you like where you live?? Does that make you an idiot? I think not.
Or maybe the has never had a ruling class...? Right.........
Islandman
Message 33/49 07-Jul-98 @ 07:34 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
1. I live in Detroit and honestly a lot of people are unaware of the term Detroit techno unless they are into the
music and a lot of people around here are not. I think the the categorization "Detroit Techno" was solidified in
places other than Detroit or America for that matter. Europe had a lot to with that. There are a lot of Detroit techno musicians that make a living just touring in Europe because they're a Detroit techno artist.
2. I personally refer to it as futbol, being Puerto Rican and all.....;)
3. Are you telling me that more that 10% of you are raking all the dosh (as you put it)? It's the same everywhere. Also, it's probably more like 2% (1% old money, 1% lucky, ruthless motherfucker). I guess I must be a dumb patriot because I like it here! Do you like where you live?? Does that make you an idiot? I think not.
Or maybe the Brits has never had a ruling class...? Right.........
Islandman
Message 34/49 07-Jul-98 @ 08:50 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Message 35/49 07-Jul-98 @ 09:12 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
JAWA
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I think what you're doing whoever the fuck you are who keeps starting these pointless threads is MISTAKING US FOR PEOPLE WHO GIVE A SHIT!!!!!!!
Message 36/49 07-Jul-98 @ 09:32 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
But that's not the title of this thread, now is it?...silly me...
If you really find it pointless, completely ignore it...don't post to it...it's really quite simple...
read other threads...
Message 37/49 07-Jul-98 @ 10:04 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
the history, but, last time I checked, this was the Music
and technical chat, I remember back when people were here
to talk about music, kit etc and help people...now it
seems the slagging has gotten out of control! Thanks for pointing out the obvious Greenman. It seems you are an
expert in House history AND first grade basics...BUT I
don't want to slag anybody (this is hardly the place) I
was just pointing out that the quality of chat here seems
to have taken a sharp turn and it's taking me longer and
LONGER TO READ THRU ALL THE B.S.and find some constructive reading! C'mon Guys, isn't there a whole section dedicated for that shit? Look where this shit is going! Now people are slagging Kilo for Christ sake! Of course who am I to talk, I'm just a dumb Yank.
Message 38/49 07-Jul-98 @ 10:13 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
the history, but, last time I checked, this was the Music
and technical chat, I remember back when people were here
to talk about music, kit etc and help people...now it
seems the slagging has gotten out of control! Thanks for pointing out the obvious Greenman. It seems you are an
expert in House history AND first grade basics...BUT I
don't want to slag anybody (this is hardly the place) I
was just pointing out that the quality of chat here seems
to have taken a sharp turn and it's taking me longer and
LONGER TO READ THRU ALL THE B.S.and find some constructive reading! C'mon Guys, isn't there a whole section dedicated for that shit? Look where this shit is going! Now people are slagging Kilo for Christ sake! Of course who am I to talk, I'm just a dumb Yank.
Message 40/49 07-Jul-98 @ 10:38 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
JAWA
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Sure you wanna learn about the history its very interesting but I mean there are ways of going about it.
I just object to this idea of starting of all these threads in this agressive way i.e. "Come on you fuckers i'll take you all on!!!!" is fucking childish.
Sorry if I offended you Greendude.
Message 41/49 07-Jul-98 @ 10:49 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
I guess we're all just feeling paranoid...I too would like to wade through less crap and read more goodies...I was hoping people would post little bits that they knew, as I'm always looking to learn more...
I'm sure it'll be better in the morning...
Message 42/49 07-Jul-98 @ 11:08 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5302/history.htm
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2377/historyofhouse.html
As I'm groovin (theres that word again) to a Jeno cd
Peace all!!
Message 43/49 07-Jul-98 @ 11:14 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5302/history.htm
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2377/historyofhouse.html
As I'm groovin (theres that word again) to a Jeno cd
Peace all!!
Message 44/49 07-Jul-98 @ 11:16 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5302/history.htm
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2377/historyofhouse.html
As I'm groovin (theres that word again) to a Jeno cd
Peace all!!
Message 45/49 08-Jul-98 @ 01:16 AM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
I used to see Jeno spin every weekend when I was living in San Fran back in '96. he was at Release/1015 Folsom...awesome, awesome..
Message 46/49 08-Jul-98 @ 05:53 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Message 47/49 16-Jul-98 @ 08:55 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Soccer (or football as you call it....I must agree it does make more sense to call it football), is way too boring for us americans. I mean, yeah, it takes some great conditioning to run around a field for that long, but beyond that....come'on......a sport?
I remember watching some "American Football" when I was in Spain a few years back....the Barcelona Dragons, I think......hhhmmmm...just not up to those Monday Night NFL games, I must say.
How about Basketball? It seems that US players only play on European teams when they can't cut it in the NBA, right? How about that US Olympic Team when they were finally allowed to play?.....that was hilarious!!!! What a beating the rest of the world took. I would've loved to watch some Olympic boxing matches featuring....hhmmmmm....some wimpy americans like...Tyson, Holyfield, etc....now that would be a treat....but no, we'll only make you fight our *amateurs*...that'll be fair, right?
As far as sports go, I wouldn't try to argue the strength of the US if the only thing you have going is "S-O-C-C-E-R", which we just ignore, because it's too damn boring. Just don't bring up the subject of Baseball....I must admit we've got a lead in the boring category with that one.....our nation's pastime....yeah right!
Now to the music thang: Detroit, alone, has spawned so much music that has influenced the rest of the world as well as it's own people's current and future music. The Motown era, the 70's funk of Parliment, and Funkadelic, to name a few. Even if you don't like these styles/genres of music, you can't help but see their influences in other forms. Of course, the UK as well as Germany and many other European countries also have a great history in the music making process, and influences that carried over to the States, but the US has many itself. Just look at all of the Jazz, Blues, and R&B artists that have come from this side of the deep blue.
See, we're really not that bad after all, are we?
Message 48/49 16-Jul-98 @ 09:46 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
Message 49/49 17-Jul-98 @ 06:35 PM - RE: English think that they can make tracks?
The end of the game (soccer) is admittedly very confusing to "this" american, as well as others I know. The "unknown" actual extra time left from penalties and such, and the "kick-fest" to settle a tie-game, are kinda weird for us yanks.
I could also go for a shorter/smaller field of play.....so as to add some excitement/scoring to the game (for us). It seems as if there is too much time just in turn-overs and long kicks/passes that just get returned by the other team.
I really shouldn't harp on a sport that I only watch every 4 years, and have actually never tried to play. I guess it may be somewhat similar to hockey, in a way.....bear with me here. It took me a little while of watching hockey before I really got into it. For alot of the same reasons as soccer (turnovers, low score, etc), but one thing that saves it (IMO) is the rules regarding 2-line passes and icing.....at least it somewhat limits the B.S. involved with long passes, etc.
I have heard, however, the comments about commercial time and such, as a negative for US television. That is, after all, how they make their money, eh? Bummer, tho', since I know I could do without a few of them (commercial breaks, that is).
OK, now let me try to reduce some US bashing sure to follow, and also mention something related to music, after all, it is a music site, eh?
So here 'goes: "I like alot of UK House tracks/remixes, prefer UK Drum&Bass/Jungle over US versions, prefer many UK music magazines much more than US ones, and I love the UK company Novation's products (except for the fact that they seem to like to reverse the order of MIDI ports left-to-right IN-OUT-THRU....must be that drive-on-the-opposite-side-of-the-street thang you guys do)".........how's that?....see as I said 'we're not so bad after all', eh?
P.S. don't take me *too* serious, I really am a pretty nice guy.....for a "yank", that is. :^]
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