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Original Message                 Date: 19-Jul-98  @  11:48 AM   -   Yamaha DX21

Geek

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Sorry, I think thats what its called or the 27?
Anyway, u knowz anything about this synth? I dont! Whats it good for?




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Message 41/76             11-Aug-98  @  03:16 PM   -   RE: Yamaha DX21

replica

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well sorry guys but I just don't like the PPG or FM synths
generally - a Yammy SY85 can emulate both to such an extent that your average punter could'nt tell the diff,
and a whole lot more besides !.



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Message 42/76             11-Aug-98  @  07:43 PM   -   RE: Yamaha DX21

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umm...isn't the sy85 an FM synth? or am i mistaken
again? i know it can do PCM stuff too, but i thought
it was FM at the core as well...



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Message 43/76             11-Aug-98  @  11:33 PM   -   RE: Yamaha DX21

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no not the SY85, you are thinking of the SY77 or SY99,
they both had FM and S+S



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Message 44/76             12-Aug-98  @  09:42 AM   -   RE: Yamaha DX21

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I get the feeling that Replica has that holier than thou analog purist additude.. Now, it doesn't really matter if he is or not, he's still got that additude.. Which I don't like.. however, a lot of anaolg freaks seem to love the esoteric digital... As I do.. I simply love my DX7IIFD (Haha with a floppy so fuck you kilo, I've got massive storage space!!) .. I have never regretted a synth decision.. The Dx is capable of all kinds of sounds.. And not just fucking basses and bells.. Actually, the shitty FM bells are the only thing I don't like... Makes beautiful pads, wonderful textures ooze out of it.. I just love it to death.. Hehe, I was gonna invest in a K5, but I spent all my money on women and E... God, I want a K5000 tho, no low signal level problem, that cool ass interface, and IT LOOKS SO DAMN COOL! Altho /FM had it's day of marketing glory, additive was pretty much passed over.. Kawai, in my opinion, are actually doing a cool thing, and moving ahead with synth technology, as opposed to being psuedo retro.. See, if I want FM, I'll buy an old Yamaha... If I want analog, I'll buy a fucking real analog... But the K5000 seems like the goods for the price, bang for the buck, for additive... you suck Replica, cuz you don't use FM, and I rule cuz I do.... So there. (And we'll see if you have a decent sense of humor, sweetheart)



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Message 45/76             12-Aug-98  @  12:14 PM   -   RE: Yamaha DX21

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I thought FM stood for Frantic Masturbation. How silly do I feel now.



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Message 46/76             12-Aug-98  @  04:16 PM   -   RE: Yamaha DX21

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Ok Sedusa - I'll make another bold statement - apart
from the initial impact of the DX7, which okay was groundbreaking - FM as a form of synthesis, in my
opinion,is the at the bottom of the pile for overall
sound generation and emulation capability - god I even prefer Casio's attempt with phase distortion !




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Message 47/76             12-Aug-98  @  07:08 PM   -   RE: Yamaha DX21

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One thing is sure: FM is a LOT better for emulating
(some) "real" instrument sounds - like epianos, some basses and (argh) bells. Well, you can do some of this with a analogue synth, but this is often by using cross modulation, which is FM...

I think FM got a bad reputation by the combination of hard programming and bad presets (if you're any type of music that's analogue-obsessed...). But check out the presets on any preset-analogue-synth and you'll see why presets aren't that important..

And I guess the TB-303 must be the worst bass-emulating synth of all time... (check out the presets for it! Acoustic bass?!)



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Message 48/76             12-Aug-98  @  07:19 PM   -   RE: Yamaha DX21

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What do you think of the DX100? IS this the budget of the range?
I'm getting into these FM sounds now!



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Message 49/76             13-Aug-98  @  12:15 AM   -   RE: Yamaha DX21

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the dx100 is super shaggadelic.... cos it's got 250 presets..... and alot of the classic sounds that evevolved outa chicago house etc are there as welll as all the garage keyboard sounds..... it's very easy to edit a patch and save it.... 4 banks.....



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Message 50/76             13-Aug-98  @  07:52 PM   -   RE: Yamaha DX21

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what about the dx9? Is this the superior DX7?
So which is the best of the DX's? Why so many?



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