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Subject: sampler as drum machine?
Original Message Date: 08-Aug-98 @ 08:20 AM - sampler as drum machine?
buggo
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(Not just on the Signum thingy...I need to know if I can do this on hardware units, such as Emax or DSM-1, that are good for drums. While we're at it, what would you all suggest as a decent drum sampler for under $400? The emax, s550, DSM1, s900, etc. all seem promising...real-world tips anyone?)
Message 41/55 30-Aug-98 @ 11:05 PM - RE: sampler as drum machine?
Has someone used and is able to give me the lowdown?
I can't seem to find anything about on the web...
Message 42/55 01-Sep-98 @ 09:14 AM - RE: sampler as drum machine?
just a question or two about the emax's routing to the 8 outs....
i set up two patches - one drum set with a kick and a snare and one bass preset - simple organ-y bass with a flat envelope. i assigned each one to a midi channel (9 and 10) and then i want each one coming out of a channel out ......
so in preset definition/edit assigment i set the kick and snare voices to channel 1>1 (which sends it out of channel 1 i think) and the bass preset to channel 2>2. and no problems, it works fine.....
HOWEVER, when i try and play a two/three note chord on the bass patch it goes monophonic on the indie out (channel 2) but still sounds poly on the main l/r output. the same happens if i try and play the kick and the snare at the same time on channel 1 - but sounds fine on the l/r....
the only thing that i thought it could be was that i was setting up the channel-assignment wrong - am i somehow limiting the polyphony on the individual outs?
in short, how do you set up a multi-timbral setup with each preset on indie outputs, and the presets able to play polyphonically? (sorry, i don't have a manual for it...)
Message 43/55 01-Sep-98 @ 09:53 AM - Piccy for Buggo
Hope that worked...
Message 44/55 01-Sep-98 @ 09:55 AM - RE: sampler as drum machine?
You wanted the rack did'nt you...
Message 45/55 02-Sep-98 @ 05:52 PM - RE: sampler as drum machine?
Also, check emus "links" section, or here as well I think, for an Emax user group. Not sure about the address for the newsgroup, but emu is emu.com (duh )
Message 46/55 02-Sep-98 @ 06:19 PM - RE: sampler as drum machine?
nomad
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samplers, each indie out is monophonic. so if you want
two notes, you need to set 1>2 or something like that,
and send those two outputs to your mixer. just the way
it is....at least from what i remember of my emax
long ago....
Message 47/55 03-Sep-98 @ 01:47 AM - RE: sampler as drum machine?
buggo
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how deep is the emax rack? I'm buying a rack to hold all my shit and the local shop makes 'em and sells 'em (real nice quality racks, too!) in various depths. I'm looking at one that's maybe 16 inches deep, but I am pretty much definitely getting the emax at some point and i'll need to know how deep it is!
also, how do you handle things like the emax, which is big and heavy, on top of, say, an FX unit in the rack? Seems as tho you ought to stack them from deepest to shallowest so they all support each other and there is more holding units in place that just the screws on the rack ears..but how do you guys do it? (they sell rack shelves at the shop for some ridiculous price like $20...)
Message 48/55 03-Sep-98 @ 09:21 AM - RE: sampler as drum machine?
AND - that's why the drums were cutting out - i had the kick and the snare both going through indie-out 1 and whenever they coincided they cut out because the outs were monphonic..... smart huh? so buggo, if you don't fuck up your routing like i did, all should be good.
anyone know what dynamic allocation does?
Message 49/55 03-Sep-98 @ 09:39 AM - RE: sampler as drum machine?
thought it had to be mentioned.....
Message 50/55 03-Sep-98 @ 05:36 PM - RE: sampler as drum machine?
as deep as they come. mine was an HD model though.
pretty heavy too. there are probably actual
specs on the emax site...nope, can't find them.
it was about the same depth as my mks70, ex8000,
prophet 3000, and i think the tx81z too (it's pretty
deep isn't it?) i don't think they get much deeper
than that....
i don't own a rack so I stack all my rack gear (about
4 pieces). works OK for me. the fx sit on top of them.
you can run into heat problems this way though if you
aren't careful, in a rack you can separate things
if necessary, or alternate deep/shallow for heat
dissipation purposes. my mks70 gets VERY hot (12 analog
voices, what do you expect?), as does my prophet 3000.
the tx81z does not get hot at all
i imagine theemax may get hot as well, although there is more space
in there, so maybe it's ok.
about dynamic allocation...in relation to what?
all it means is that it just picks whatever, usually
voices. so if you say "preset 1 goes to voices 3-4"
that's fixed allocation - it can ONLY play that
preset on voices 3-4, even if nothing else is playing.
usually for indie outs. dynamic means it just picks
an available voice and uses it. nothing more complicated
than that.
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