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Original Message 1/9             12-Aug-98  @  04:35 AM   -   Chopping Drumloops

Tom

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This is how do you do it type thing. Do you chop
single hits and program a drum pattern? How do you chop up loops to make variations of the one bar loop you have to use and still keep the feel
of that loop?



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Message 2/9             12-Aug-98  @  07:27 PM   -   RE: Chopping Drumloops

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Well... if you don't want to spend large amounts of money, I'd say download 2 programs, Wavesurgeon & Fruity Loops. Hunt for them, they're out there.
Now, load your WAVE file of your drumloop into Wavesurgeon. You can play with the sensitivity scale to chop it up by particular beats. This is great if you want to just remove one hit and replace it with another. Or you can chop the loop by 1/8th or 1/16th notes, or you can just drag'n'drop cuts anywhere. Save your work to wave files (in the file menu).
So now you've got some cut-up bits of beats. Open Fruity Loops and load your sounds (drag'n'drop or whatever). Set the tempo to the tempo you want. If you want the same feel as the original, keep the original tempo, or close to. Now go nuts. Just work that thing. If you want to substitute one drum for another, pull in the sound you want to use, then hit that sound instead of the original in the sequence. It's quite easy, and sometimes you get unexpected rhythms that are neat-o.
Fruity Loops is also great for making your own loops from scratch, with just one-hit drum samples. There's some effects available too. Um, either register the new PRO version (for $30, it's well worth it) or download the old beta, or you won't get enough tracks to play with.



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Message 3/9             12-Aug-98  @  07:33 PM   -   RE: Chopping Drumloops

whynot

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Well... if you don't want to spend large amounts of money, I'd say download 2 programs, Wavesurgeon & Fruity Loops. Hunt for them, they're out there.
Now, load your WAVE file of your drumloop into Wavesurgeon. You can play with the sensitivity scale to chop it up by particular beats. This is great if you want to just remove one hit and replace it with another. Or you can chop the loop by 1/8th or 1/16th notes, or you can just drag'n'drop cuts anywhere. Save your work to wave files (in the file menu).
So now you've got some cut-up bits of beats. Open Fruity Loops and load your sounds (drag'n'drop or whatever). Set the tempo to the tempo you want. If you want the same feel as the original, keep the original tempo, or close to. Now go nuts. Just work that thing. If you want to substitute one drum for another, pull in the sound you want to use, then hit that sound instead of the original in the sequence. It's quite easy, and sometimes you get unexpected rhythms that are neat-o.
Fruity Loops is also great for making your own loops from scratch, with just one-hit drum samples. There's some effects available too. Um, either register the new PRO version (for $30, it's well worth it) or download the old beta, or you won't get enough tracks to play with.



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Message 4/9             13-Aug-98  @  07:42 PM   -   RE: Chopping Drumloops

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Get 'Amen' on this months cover CD of Future Music (september issue)



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Message 5/9             15-Aug-98  @  02:11 AM   -   RE: Chopping Drumloops

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Don't fuck around with janky shareware, dude. Recycle and Cubase, get 'em, they'll explain the rest. Me, I chop up my shit in Sound Maker, Long Live Alberto Ricci!



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Message 6/9             15-Aug-98  @  04:11 PM   -   RE: Chopping Drumloops

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Hey DUDE!!!!

I've got Recycle. Its a pile of absolute TURD!!!!!

I've got Amen. Its the dogs GOOLIES!!!!!

I've got Wavesurgeon. Its alright!!!!!! well ... better than recycle in my opinion.



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Message 7/9             15-Aug-98  @  04:28 PM   -   RE: Chopping Drumloops

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wavesurgeon kicks recycles ass anyday!

fruity loops kicks hammerhead/bbox whatever anyday!



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Message 8/9             15-Aug-98  @  08:08 PM   -   RE: Chopping Drumloops

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Weeeellllll, Wave Surgeon's quite good, it does stereo and 8-bit files, which recycle can't, but recycle's auto-mapping functions are indispensible.

And Amen is dope, really nice for building a base-loop, then cutting that up in recycle.



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Message 9/9             15-Aug-98  @  08:10 PM   -   RE: Chopping Drumloops

rouge

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Iluvvvv Amen. If only it didn't fuck up after 5 minutes.

Amen lets you input a beat press random rearrange and you've got one great fucked up break beat



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