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Original Message                 Date: 23-Aug-03  @  01:22 PM   -   RADIUM

CATASTROPHIC

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does anyone know where radium has gone?




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Message 81/107             29-Aug-03  @  07:56 PM   -   RE: RADIUM

The Alchemist

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PIMPS UP HOZ DOWN!
Who cares its not goin n e where with this arguing.



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Message 82/107             29-Aug-03  @  10:24 PM   -   RE: RADIUM

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LOL @ xoxos.

Now go make some shiny music.



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Message 83/107             30-Aug-03  @  02:52 AM   -   RE: RADIUM

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Omo - just so we're clear here. NO ONE is stating that the freeware and shareware is as good as Pro Tools. NO ONE is impeding your right to state that freeware is not as good as Pro Tools. The POINT is, now follow this please, I'll put it into as simple langauge as I can so you can understand it...

using cracks is using stolen goods.

If you are trying to argue to me (through the words of The Answer) that you are making social/economic/cultural statement by using cracked software...

Sorry, I can't finish that argument. It's so absurd. I didn't realize that using computers to make music is a right to all individuals, regardless of their religion, nationality, ethnicity or sexual orientation. Glad to know it is on the same level as having a roof over your head and food on your plate.

I've said my peace, now you can have the last word.



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Message 84/107             30-Aug-03  @  03:34 AM   -   RE: RADIUM

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Pro Tools? I never mentioned Pro Tools, but since you have.....

That's one piece of software you can't accuse me of thieving. I've got the FREE version.

Let's just agree to disagree.p



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Message 85/107             30-Aug-03  @  03:41 AM   -   RE: RADIUM

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no, lets have a long, protracted arugement that goes on forever and never gets anywhere.



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Message 86/107             30-Aug-03  @  04:52 AM   -   RE: RADIUM

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too late 



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Message 87/107             30-Aug-03  @  07:46 PM   -   RE: RADIUM

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The End.



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Message 88/107             01-Sep-03  @  08:59 PM   -   RE: RADIUM

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this is not the end, it isnt even the begining of the end, this
is the end of the begining.



REMEMBER KIDS STAY OFF CRACKZ!



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Message 89/107             05-Sep-03  @  02:56 AM   -   RE: RADIUM

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OK let's get this straight 'cause this bugs the shit out of me everytime I see it.

Using cracked software is NOT theft.

Using cracked software is COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT.

Both are still wrong, but are two very different things and I'm getting tired of people going on with the "piracy is theft" argument.

Let's say I have 5 widgets for sale on a table. They cost me $20 to produce and I'm selling them for $35. Someone comes up and steals one of those widgets. I have now only 4 widgets that I can sell, having been physically deprived of one of them and therefore the production costs and the potential revenue from its sale. This is theft.

Now, lets say I am Steinberg. Last time I checked Cubase was around $1000 here in Canada. If some 15-year old warez d00d downloads a cracked version, have I been deprived of anything? Is there one less copy of Cubase available for me to sell? NO!! That kid was most likely never going to be a customer the in the first place, and could probably not afford it anyway. The point is that unlike the CD-seller in my example above, Steinberg as not "lost" anything. Their copyright has been infringed, but they have not had anything STOLEN from them.

Get it? Got it? Good.



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Message 90/107             05-Sep-03  @  02:59 AM   -   RE: RADIUM

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whatd you do, go search this out?

good point tho. no actual "loss" except for the potentially lost sales. no matter what you say, there are "some"

still a good point regarding the distinction



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