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Forums - Synths & synthesis
Subject: newbie wanting to setup Cubase 5 to Nova
Original Message 1/18 30-Oct-00 @ 01:37 PM - newbie wanting to setup Cubase 5 to Nova
k_i've recently bought a Nova and a copy of Cubase V5, but i ain't got much of an idea of how to set them up to have C-5 triggering the sounds of the Nova. can someone please give me a helping hand on how to do it, 'cos i'm struggling badly as i'm only used to using all software and no hardware, this is my first step. hope you can help,.......l@ters.
Message 2/18 30-Oct-00 @ 08:03 PM - RE: newbie wanting to setup Cubase 5 to Nova
well i never... First do you know how to use vst ?
Message 3/18 30-Oct-00 @ 08:39 PM - RE: newbie wanting to setup Cubase 5 to Nova
a'up there m8,
well up untill now all i've used to make tunes with is mainly such prog's as Fruityloops, which was fine but it can no longer do what i want, k_on the beat side of thing it's sweet and the 404 is just dandy but using it to do whole tracks still leaves them empty sounding when your pitch shifting notes on your riffs with your samp's n' that, hence the Nova and Cubase 5.
i'll admit i don't know midi, i know the principle of it and i ain't shy when it comes to learning and pickin' it up, it's just that i could do with a wee few starting and setup points to get me my way.
what setting's do i have to make on Cubase and on the Nova to be able to trigger the sounds, i have tried but failed. as for VST well i'd be lying if i was to say i know it, of course i know of it but that don't help jack.
hope you can spare the time to point me in the right direction m8, it would be seriously appreciated.
laters,
The Jules.
well up untill now all i've used to make tunes with is mainly such prog's as Fruityloops, which was fine but it can no longer do what i want, k_on the beat side of thing it's sweet and the 404 is just dandy but using it to do whole tracks still leaves them empty sounding when your pitch shifting notes on your riffs with your samp's n' that, hence the Nova and Cubase 5.
i'll admit i don't know midi, i know the principle of it and i ain't shy when it comes to learning and pickin' it up, it's just that i could do with a wee few starting and setup points to get me my way.
what setting's do i have to make on Cubase and on the Nova to be able to trigger the sounds, i have tried but failed. as for VST well i'd be lying if i was to say i know it, of course i know of it but that don't help jack.
hope you can spare the time to point me in the right direction m8, it would be seriously appreciated.
laters,
The Jules.
Message 4/18 31-Oct-00 @ 02:32 AM - RE: newbie wanting to setup Cubase 5 to Nova
well the nova series to work with is about as hard to work out as a bodum cafetier... setup vst, and wire the L/R out from the nova to the soundcard IN L/R.... open vst...
go to audio track_1, and sling in a loop and set the tempo to fit or the loop stretched to fit the tempo you want - (there is an articles on that looping 'fit tempo' stuff in ARTICLES section, search for VST) - anyways -
get a loop running, and set vst to CYCLE with the loop icon on the toolbar after setting L/R locators to make the sequencer cycle start-end points
ok.. we have loop going round & round... ... stop VST
go to nova.. press the PERFORMANCE button
select each PART button and for each one set it's midi channel using the midi button for each Nova Performance Part, 1-6 or 8 ascending tallying with the nova or supernova PARTS so PART_1 is on midi channel_1 etc....
so now you have 6 or 8 nova/supernova Performance Parts ... and each part is on a channel... Aslo as you set channel for each, also set each part as either MONOphonic (plays just one note at a time) or poly.. (chords etc).... er...
ok any of the 6/8 PART buttons reveals a patchname & it's bank/patch number when selected ... so.. back to VST
select midi track_1 - select the pencil tool and draw in a music_part in between the locators under the drum loop in the VST arrange area screen - - double click on it & to go into the piano_edit screen of vst - draw in a row of notes... close edit...
set the vst track midi OUT to the port on the pc wired to the Nova midi IN ... set the vst track Midi channel to ONE... the PART BUTTON_1 on the nova should be blinking with the notes riff being triggered... but there may be no sound yet .... dont sweat it!!...
if the drum loop is playing and you CAN hear that, then your audio output from the card etc is all wired up ok.. all we have to do now is get the Nova sounds to appear in the mix at the soundcard OUT...
so.... open the vst mixer.. Select & set audio track_3 as 'stereo' so it becomes VST OUT CHANNELS 3+4 - it is now a stereo VST channel....
assign the channels INPUT (top yellow/white button ) to INPUT 1 & 2 your soundcard In L/R... then depress the same top channel button so it 'lights'.. the nova sound should appear on the meters flashing away and the sound should appear at the speakers with the loop.... you can eq it etc if you have LOW latency audio asio card (like 1-11ms ish)
So... this way you can work in step-time, drawing in patterns and parts for nova on the vst arrange page...
to change Nova sound for the playing PART on the Nova just press the PART button and the use the arrow up/down buttons & bank buttons to select a preset... when you have the channels of NOVA setup, save it as a default start_up PERFORMANCE with a unique Performance_name so it is ready to load up and all the parts are ready assigned to consecutive channels ready for multi-track sequencing in VST
if you want to sperate out the Nova Parts that you have composed with MORE treatment than using just the Nova fx on each part, then you can mute all the Nova Parts you DONT want to record (or Mute their VST sequence tracks) then record the solo'd Nova 'Part' to a vst audio file/track.. it can then be as a recorded vst 'audio_file music_part' and have it's own VST channel on the mixer, it's own vst fx, insert's like compressors etc...
and of course you can further mixdown tthose recorded parts with fx etc...
lastluy, if you want to PLAY the nova module from a master keyboard & record the notes as you play.. that another page - try this first
go to audio track_1, and sling in a loop and set the tempo to fit or the loop stretched to fit the tempo you want - (there is an articles on that looping 'fit tempo' stuff in ARTICLES section, search for VST) - anyways -
get a loop running, and set vst to CYCLE with the loop icon on the toolbar after setting L/R locators to make the sequencer cycle start-end points
ok.. we have loop going round & round... ... stop VST
go to nova.. press the PERFORMANCE button
select each PART button and for each one set it's midi channel using the midi button for each Nova Performance Part, 1-6 or 8 ascending tallying with the nova or supernova PARTS so PART_1 is on midi channel_1 etc....
so now you have 6 or 8 nova/supernova Performance Parts ... and each part is on a channel... Aslo as you set channel for each, also set each part as either MONOphonic (plays just one note at a time) or poly.. (chords etc).... er...
select midi track_1 - select the pencil tool and draw in a music_part in between the locators under the drum loop in the VST arrange area screen - - double click on it & to go into the piano_edit screen of vst - draw in a row of notes... close edit...
set the vst track midi OUT to the port on the pc wired to the Nova midi IN ... set the vst track Midi channel to ONE... the PART BUTTON_1 on the nova should be blinking with the notes riff being triggered... but there may be no sound yet .... dont sweat it!!...
if the drum loop is playing and you CAN hear that, then your audio output from the card etc is all wired up ok.. all we have to do now is get the Nova sounds to appear in the mix at the soundcard OUT...
so.... open the vst mixer.. Select & set audio track_3 as 'stereo' so it becomes VST OUT CHANNELS 3+4 - it is now a stereo VST channel....
assign the channels INPUT (top yellow/white button ) to INPUT 1 & 2 your soundcard In L/R... then depress the same top channel button so it 'lights'.. the nova sound should appear on the meters flashing away and the sound should appear at the speakers with the loop.... you can eq it etc if you have LOW latency audio asio card (like 1-11ms ish)
So... this way you can work in step-time, drawing in patterns and parts for nova on the vst arrange page...
to change Nova sound for the playing PART on the Nova just press the PART button and the use the arrow up/down buttons & bank buttons to select a preset... when you have the channels of NOVA setup, save it as a default start_up PERFORMANCE with a unique Performance_name so it is ready to load up and all the parts are ready assigned to consecutive channels ready for multi-track sequencing in VST
if you want to sperate out the Nova Parts that you have composed with MORE treatment than using just the Nova fx on each part, then you can mute all the Nova Parts you DONT want to record (or Mute their VST sequence tracks) then record the solo'd Nova 'Part' to a vst audio file/track.. it can then be as a recorded vst 'audio_file music_part' and have it's own VST channel on the mixer, it's own vst fx, insert's like compressors etc...
and of course you can further mixdown tthose recorded parts with fx etc...
lastluy, if you want to PLAY the nova module from a master keyboard & record the notes as you play.. that another page - try this first
Message 5/18 31-Oct-00 @ 03:02 PM - RE: newbie wanting to setup Cubase 5 to Nova
nice_one m8, thanx for ya time, i'll try it and see how i get on,....thanx again,......................l@ters, The Jules.
Message 6/18 31-Oct-00 @ 09:01 PM - RE: newbie wanting to setup Cubase 5 to Nova
'K' i've done all of what you said but i ain't geting a midi signal back to my Nova?? i know you maybe pissed wi' me already, but is there any chance of you emailing me so i can fully explain wha'sup & my soundcards setup..............hope ya can m8, ............l@ters............The Jules.
Message 7/18 01-Nov-00 @ 07:34 PM - RE: newbie wanting to setup Cubase 5 to Nova
well, when the created music part in vst plays does the midi indicator flash on the toolbar?.. is the midi port set to your midi-device out?.. if yes, then set the Nova into PROGRAMME mode... set the GLOBAL midi channel to the same channel as the vst track/out - does it play now?... if not, then your midi lead is fucked.
Message 8/18 01-Nov-00 @ 08:45 PM - RE: newbie wanting to setup Cubase 5 to Nova
k_i've tried the above, the indicators flashin' put i'm hearing the piano?? and the nova ain't receivin' jack. the midi cable is new.........i've a Vortex and a Yammi SW1000XG soundcard, i've the midi connected to the games/joystick port on the Vortex (is that right) another thing; the audio was playin' and the meter showed it playin' but i've a loss of sound there??
needless to say i'm a wee bit pissed, but i want to learn it and intend on doin' so, if you belive me to be a 'lost case' then i understand m8, it ain't no problem, i guess i'm gonna 'ave to lay my hand on some book's maybe and try and try again 'till i get it. big_thanx for all of what ya done tho' m8, nice_one........l@ters, The Jules.
needless to say i'm a wee bit pissed, but i want to learn it and intend on doin' so, if you belive me to be a 'lost case' then i understand m8, it ain't no problem, i guess i'm gonna 'ave to lay my hand on some book's maybe and try and try again 'till i get it. big_thanx for all of what ya done tho' m8, nice_one........l@ters, The Jules.
Message 10/18 02-Nov-00 @ 07:19 AM - RE: newbie wanting to setup Cubase 5 to Nova
and you are hearing piano not supernova Ja !?
you have the XG selected at the track midi port... you must select the SW's midi OUT port for the track the notes are on... you are directing the notes to the SWXG synth...
... do you know how to reveal the side info-panel where you set the midi OUT and patch/bank etc for each track?.. there is a small red/blue/white button on the bottom left of the arrange window.. click it - a side-panel is revealed on the left of the screen -- select the track with the notes on so it is highlighted - set the midi OUT port to SW1000XG MIDI OUT..also set the midi channel for the track in that panel...
you have the XG selected at the track midi port... you must select the SW's midi OUT port for the track the notes are on... you are directing the notes to the SWXG synth...
... do you know how to reveal the side info-panel where you set the midi OUT and patch/bank etc for each track?.. there is a small red/blue/white button on the bottom left of the arrange window.. click it - a side-panel is revealed on the left of the screen -- select the track with the notes on so it is highlighted - set the midi OUT port to SW1000XG MIDI OUT..also set the midi channel for the track in that panel...
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