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Subject: Review of Musician's Gear-Ordering my Q Rack
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Original Message 1/18 26-May-00 @ 01:18 PM - Review of Musician's Gear-Ordering my Q Rack
This is an awesome price, no doubt about it.
However, I paid a price for ordering through them. My unit came shipped in an oversized box for the packing material and unit. It was chipped on the upper right corner and the metal was bent back. Clearly this was the fault of the packing and not shipping. Had it been packed appropriately, the unit would not have sustained any damage at all.
So, I sent an email to them, describing my experience and how I was disappointed with their packing and what could they do about this (since I recieved a cosmetically damaged unit). Here is their reply:
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On Thu, 25 May 2000 16:26:41 -0700 (PDT), Robert Pointer wrote:
>I would appreciate some feedback on my complaint.
internet asks for speed. most of the customers are in a hurry.
sometimes we let force us in speedy actions too...
and then an accident happens - very sorry for that
* best regards
* Nicolas Keim - http://www.musicians-gear.com
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Not good enough in my book. This is not quality service. However, the unit is functional and, as far as I can tell, has no operational problems.
I am at quandry as to whether I should push harder and see if I can get some recourse to this. I'm not sure....
Anyway, the unit came shipped without a warranty card for me to fill out and it came with the european/german electric plug. This was no big deal as I went to radio shack and bought a U.S.A. compatible plug.
All in all, I would rate the service experience as an F.
However,this viewpoint is mitigated by the price of the unit. So, overall I would have to grade Musician's Gear a C.
I am finicky about my stuff, and to recieve something that is tarnished in some way is bad.
If price point is your concern, then I say go for it.
If you are looking for great service as well...think twice.
.02,
rob.
p.s. However, I am still debating on ordering some MAM equipment from them. I can't imagine that they would have to mess with the packaging in that case...still trying to decide...
Message 2/18 26-May-00 @ 03:49 PM - RE: Review of Musician's Gear-Ordering my Q Rack
Q was not damaged but I was still upset because I was hoping to store it in the box when traveling with it..maybe someone should let waldorf know that the current packaging for the q rack is not surviving the shipping to the US..I would try talking to the us distributer and see what they can do to help because you would be taking a risk of more damage to send it back to germany..
Kraig
Message 3/18 26-May-00 @ 04:29 PM - RE: Review of Musician's Gear-Ordering my Q Rack
Didn't realize this. This would, of course, change my opinion of Musician's Gear. What I am confused about, however, is why they just didn't tell me that Waldorf packs their material like that.
I will follow up with Waldorf. I'll let you know how that goes...
: )
Thanks for the tip.
rob.
Message 4/18 26-May-00 @ 05:44 PM - RE: Review of Musician's Gear-Ordering my Q Rack
Waldorf have been criticised many times in the past for their packaging, particularly on the XT, which I would assume shares similar packaging with the Q Rack as it is the same chassis, so I think you are right in pursuing your claim with Waldorf at fault.
Message 5/18 26-May-00 @ 07:25 PM - RE: Review of Musician's Gear-Ordering my Q Rack
Legally I believe that it is the shop that needs to sort it out, it's up to them to take it up with Waldorf.
Message 6/18 26-May-00 @ 11:36 PM - RE: Review of Musician's Gear-Ordering my Q Rack
warranty card. Hmmmm. I'm with CK on his take on the situation...... How much did you say you had to pay extra on shipping? They're selling
the XT 30 voice for $990. If I end up paying an extra $200 shipping ect., I might as well order it in the states.
Message 7/18 27-May-00 @ 08:53 AM - RE: Review of Musician's Gear-Ordering my Q Rack
Message 8/18 27-May-00 @ 01:34 PM - RE: Review of Musician's Gear-Ordering my Q Rack
Message 9/18 27-May-00 @ 06:58 PM - RE: Review of Musician's Gear-Ordering my Q Rack
Message 10/18 28-May-00 @ 09:44 PM - RE: Review of Musician's Gear-Ordering my Q Rack
Please let us know what your outcome is... They've got some fantastic prices.
-Craig
Message 11/18 29-May-00 @ 08:36 AM - RE: Review of Musician's Gear-Ordering my Q Rack
Ape
Message 12/18 29-May-00 @ 11:55 AM - RE: Review of Musician's Gear-Ordering my Q Rack
I not sure but I think you have both of these units? I haven't used ether units, but I like there spec / demo's and I plan on buying one of them.
So in my own round about way I'm asking you if you had to pick one as your main synth witch one would it be? Alex
Message 13/18 29-May-00 @ 06:09 PM - RE: Review of Musician's Gear-Ordering my Q Rack
The Q is more like the Nord, but also much more complex, less of a jump for you than the MW. Hard to say which I like better, as each has a very distinct character. Seems like you'll get more 'standard' synth sounds out of the Q, but plenty of unique stuff too. I've been pulling some really scary, nasty stuff out of the Q as of late. I guess I'd use the Q as my main synth as it is a little more utilitarian, but later when you have the cash, a MW1 sounds like no other. Breathtaking, really.
I was going to get the XT, and I still may, but if you have neither, get the Q. It's bad ass, but beware as it has a certain sound quality that is distinct, and it always sounds like itself. It's got this super clean edge that's really tight. It sounds very precision and tight, and I haven't found a way to change that and make it sound a bit more sloppy, but I'm sure I will. It's not perfect, but as it is, it's still unreal. Good luck. I'm getting by quite nicely with just the 16-voice, but I guess if you're doing really big sounding stuff, you may want the 32. I haven't sound a need for it yet, even in Unison Mode.
Ape
Message 14/18 29-May-00 @ 11:48 PM - RE: Review of Musician's Gear-Ordering my Q Rack
(that's what I'm going for). So a few more question if you don't mind? How are it's pads, does it produce nice pads (I'm just talking factory
preset, or in your opinion). I'm a pad freak, I love em. Does it have drum kits or single drum sounds. It doesn't really specify on the
Waldorf site. Thanks again, Alex
Message 15/18 30-May-00 @ 05:16 AM - RE: Review of Musician's Gear-Ordering my Q Rack
Ape
Message 16/18 30-May-00 @ 10:28 AM - RE: Review of Musician's Gear-Ordering my Q Rack
It's the person using it, not the machine"? and that was a can'o'worms I didn't feel like potentially opening. You understand. Hey do you have
any tracks available on the net, I'd love to hear em? Peace out for now- Alex
Message 17/18 30-May-00 @ 11:56 AM - RE: Review of Musician's Gear-Ordering my Q Rack
Ape
Message 18/18 30-May-00 @ 12:18 PM - RE: Review of Musician's Gear-Ordering my Q Rack
The Q's sound kicks ass. I am very, very impressed by it's sonic capabilities...
It is now the center piece of my set up. Running in parallel with my Korg MS2000R, I have got a freakin' potent combo. I can't see straight, I am soooo happy.
anyway, The Q is great because if you want to learn more about sound synthesis, it is an easy to understand machine with clear layouts, etc. to bounce around in. And the manual is decently written with a little bit of theory thrown in..
The only thing I am having trouble with is the step sequencer. But I haven't tried it yet, I've only worked through the manual at this point (as I generally try to understand everything that I read before I go galavantin' around in the machine itself).
Still trying to sort through my shipping nightmare, but the sting is wearing off the more I play with the synth itself...
Devious, if you ask me.... [grin]
rob.
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