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Original Message Date: 24-Oct-00 @ 08:55 PM - Virus LFO Midi Sync

swanofnever

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yes, another retarded virus question:

okay, so if i've set an LFO to a two-bar cycle (2/1), is there any way to specify when the cycle begins? (i.e with a down-sawtooth lfo, what if i want it to peak at some time other that the first beat of every odd bar?)
i'm trying to get it to peak on the "and" of beat 1 of every odd bar (i.e shifted right by an 1/8 note from where it would "normally" peak), but that's not really working.
starting the seq. at different places seems to work, but that fucks the other lfos up...

i'm guessing i'll just have to draw CC sawtooths, but if anyone knows how to shift an lfos midi-sync'd cycle left/right please let me know.

and sorry as usual for the complete lack of coherent explanation.

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Message 11/24 31-Oct-00 @ 02:11 PM - RE: Virus LFO Midi Sync

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influx, just to make sure we are talking about the samething, key trigger on most synths means the same thing as the Virus' init phase = 127. The Virus' Env Mode button is not what most synths means by key trigger. Most synths don't even have this option. The option makes an LFO oscillate for only 1 period to work as a ramp generator.

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Message 12/24 02-Nov-00 @ 03:39 AM - RE: Virus LFO Midi Sync

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OK..I was thinking the wrong thing...in my E4 its either "free run" or "key sync" for the LFO. so the LFO only starts when a key is hit, and in the virus I thought that init phase was WHERE in its cycle the LFO starts when that switch is enabled (but its only on LFO2, isnt it?)

Im not looking at mine and I dont study the names of switches and knobs. just know where they are and what they do

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Message 13/24 02-Nov-00 @ 08:25 AM - RE: Virus LFO Midi Sync

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ok. I am TOTALLY confused. I didnt want to start another thread, but I really cant figure this out. unrelated (thread stealer) but:

I set up a single I like for a part in single mode, then when I get a few parts I like, I serve up a multi to store the settings and output routing and all that, and then I throw it in multisingle mode...

NOW...Ive noticed this before but its happening right now on something Im working on and it is ANNOYING because I cant figure out why.

what happens is that the darn patch changes!!!! It gets louder and chorused when I switch to multisingle mode. WHY WHY WHY?

all the settings are exactly the same as far as I can tell. The patch is in unison 2 voice, pan spread at 0, split filter mode. I have agonized over this for about 2 hours now..tryin to figger it out.

fuck all.

oh..also..now THIS is odd...for some reason...Multi 1 wont let me run a patch on midi channel TWO. huh?

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Message 14/24 02-Nov-00 @ 05:11 PM - RE: Virus LFO Midi Sync

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Chorus is shared between all the voices, so if you were using two different chorus settings your sound will change. The loudness could just be relative? Your mix settings in Multi mode?

-Craig

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Message 15/24 02-Nov-00 @ 06:01 PM - RE: Virus LFO Midi Sync

influx

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nope. and there is no chorus applied either.

wait..mix settings? waddaya mean?

fuck..this thing is funny sometimes. I know theres a reason its doin it, but I just cant figger out why

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Message 16/24 02-Nov-00 @ 06:37 PM - RE: Virus LFO Midi Sync

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Your part volumes... Have you messed with them? What about your out assignments? If you're using unison and you sum it to mono it could introduce a chorusing effect, whereas in single mode you have it going to outs 1&2?

-Craig

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Message 17/24 03-Nov-00 @ 11:19 AM - RE: Virus LFO Midi Sync

influx

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out 1 LR....but...I think I have it panned center on the mix...
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but..it gets WAY louder. fuck. I spent even more time tryin to figger it out tonight. I just dont like the way it sounds right now. SHould just print as is I guess...

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Message 18/24 03-Nov-00 @ 02:36 PM - RE: Virus LFO Midi Sync

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influx, is your virus b or a?

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Message 19/24 03-Nov-00 @ 09:24 PM - RE: Virus LFO Midi Sync

influx

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A. maybe thats why Im seein a little different than yall.

still fuckin makin that weird sound. hmmm. there is NO chorus assigned anywhere.

such a trip

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Message 20/24 05-Nov-00 @ 09:24 PM - RE: Virus LFO Midi Sync

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influx -- i've noticed things like that happening on my a too... i've been writing little mini-songs (i.e just using my virus+w-30's seq. till i get huings all set up... whenever the fuck THAT happens... rgh. whatever) and for some reason it really, really seems like the relative volumes are changing. i've yet to test this rigourously (i.e write down the numbers and see if that's what they are every damn time) but i swear it seems like every once and a while a certain patch will be WAY louder than it should be...

99devils -- is the chorus really shared? i thought the first 4 singles in multi mode got their own choruses. (or chorii or whatever).

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