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Original Message 1/42 01-Nov-00 @ 01:18 AM - Micro-Q is out!!

scrotalsack

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I went to the waldorf site today to get the new soundset for my XT, and what did I see on the main page?? The MicroQ! Its out! with real pics & everything! the specs look badass

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Message 2/42 01-Nov-00 @ 08:59 AM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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Yeah, it's basicly a Q in a rack with 1/3 prize. Sounds like a dream come true. You lose the knobs of course but it is one of the best synths engines around at the moment.

Personally, I'm torn between buying an XT or a Micro Q. I really need the real-time control but the Micro Q would rock, sound-wise.

Oh, I have a question too: I'm mostly interested in the wavetable-synthesis (what I really need at the moment is something that can create long, evolving soundscapes and wavetable synthesis does exactly this) so is there much difference in the sound quality and diversity between the XT and the Q range when it comes to wavetables?

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Message 3/42 02-Nov-00 @ 02:40 AM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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I believe on the XT you have 128 wavetables to choose from , whereas the Q only has two. XT is much more wavetable-oriented if that's what yer looking for

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Message 4/42 02-Nov-00 @ 09:02 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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even if you realy like the xt's wavetable abilities, youve gotta take into account that its only got 10 voices compared to the uQ's 25(both unexpanded ofcourse).

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Message 5/42 02-Nov-00 @ 09:40 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

99devils

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In order to get the 25 voices though you need to make do without some features, according to the fine print.

In my opinion, if you want a wavetable synth, get a Microwave. The XT-30 voice isn't much more than the XT-10.

www.musicians-gear.de

-Craig

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Message 6/42 03-Nov-00 @ 10:01 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

phunkytek

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my xt has 30 voices.

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Message 7/42 04-Nov-00 @ 01:29 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

iDX

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heard that Q has one advantage in it
Wavetables even if it only has 2, and
that is they are much smoother when
going through the transition,
microwave can sound a little jumpy
or clicky sometimes when scrolling
through the wavetable..

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Message 8/42 04-Nov-00 @ 01:32 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

iDX

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Message 9/42 04-Nov-00 @ 01:32 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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Message 10/42 04-Nov-00 @ 01:34 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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Message 11/42 04-Nov-00 @ 01:44 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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Message 12/42 04-Nov-00 @ 01:46 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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Message 13/42 04-Nov-00 @ 01:46 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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Message 14/42 04-Nov-00 @ 01:53 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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Message 15/42 04-Nov-00 @ 04:10 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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the Q wavetables are 128 cycles in length and the microwave is only 64. The XT and Q knobs are useless for accurate fast tweeking because they are velocity sensative. This new Q is much more atractive to me. Any Idea on the price of the unit compared to the larger 3space rack version.

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Message 16/42 05-Nov-00 @ 01:31 AM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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What do u mean by velocity sensitive knobs, phunkytek? Please educate me. Doesn't the XT have more tables than the Q?

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Message 17/42 05-Nov-00 @ 07:05 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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has anyone ever checked out the wavestation AD for wavetables very smooth atmospheres out of that and the machine was designed by the same guys who put the prophet VS out.Even those yamahe tg33 table deals w/ the wavetables are cool.i think those korg wavestations have 256 steps or maybe more.i know a guy who had one and it was one of the best sounding atmospheric macines other than the D50.Are microwave 2s 16 bit or are they 12bit like the original?That original microwave is grainy and sweet because of it.I think the microwave is 12 bit.

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Just being nosey,and thinking about 1 good VA synth.The EA-1 is a wanker.

Oh yeah I was wondering do Q synths have bugs?can you play stacked oscillators in the patches and is there a mono/unison mode?Like if it has 25 voices can I use it as 5 5 OSC monosynths w/ portamento?Or does it have poly portamento.So basically can i allocate the voices for each patch or do they always play however many keys you press?How deep is the micro q dimension wise not musically?Is it actually out or just showing on a screen or in a zine near you?

-:0 can i play it w/ 1 finger?and then maybe hit another note with the other finger on my other hand and have it bounce back to the original note if i dont lift my other finger?

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Message 18/42 06-Nov-00 @ 10:21 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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The wavestation rocks, but I down loaded the wave table from it for the xt from the user section on the waldorf site.Some guy converted them. i havn't figured out how to load them yet.The sysex goes, but nothing is updated?

Velocity sensing knobs: They respond to the speed of the turn , so when moving them fast you end up jumping ahead in varying positions making it very hard to return to the same spot. They don't repond like a normal analog knob. The actual position jumps all over the place when you try and tweak it fast. They rotate 360 degrees and the actual position changes based on how fast the knob is turned. So, the only acurate tweaks are done slowly. I slow down the song and record them at 80bpms, and then return the song to it's normal speed, but some of the feel is lost. It's my only complaint. Fuck all those knobs, they're a waist of space. Convienant for editing patches, but not for real time control over a sweet spot in the filter. Use another controler. I'm looking into the Kenton Control freak. The Q has the same knobs as the XT. I e-mailed a letter to Waldorf complaining about this very unatural and un benificial feature,and requested it be updated in a new OS if Possible. They did not respond.

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Message 19/42 06-Nov-00 @ 10:29 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

phunkytek

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the ea-1 is limiting, but does a very fat acid line. orbital used it extensively along with the polymorp. The polymorph is very analogish. Too bad Quasimidi is gone.
Good VA's:
Of coarse the Q, Nova, Virus, and very impressive, but with limited polyphony, the korg ms-2000. It sounds great. BT uses 3 of them, two hooked up in poly mode to increase the voices to 8.

I'm more interested in new analogs now. Andromeda is almost here!

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Message 20/42 07-Nov-00 @ 12:52 AM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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phunkytek, whats the url for the wavestation conversions... id like to try them out. i looked on waldorfs ftp site but couldnt find them.

perhaps its just the wavetables that are updated... no actual sounds. like you'd have to switch the wavetable knob to use the higher-numbered settings.

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Message 21/42 07-Nov-00 @ 12:56 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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all i need to know is how much the micro q will be and that is my christmas present to myself sorted. i think about �900, �300 less than the full rack ie the same price diffence between a micro wave2 and an xt rack. when do they ship?
ashley

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Message 22/42 07-Nov-00 @ 04:42 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

Phunkytek

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I'll see if I can find it on their site, if not, I'll e-mail it to you. It was under an employee's name.

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Message 23/42 07-Nov-00 @ 04:50 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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sorry about that, the file contains the wavetables from the wavestation converted to fit in the 64 cycle xt format.They were diferent lengths or something. There is a read me file with it. I'll find it andd post it. I still havn't loaded them corectly yet.The midi file playes but my microwave makes no changes tyo it's wave tables. It is supposed to reside in the user tables.

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Message 24/42 07-Nov-00 @ 08:44 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

scrotalsack

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phunkytek, if you find the link and want to email it to me (or to give me shit for all the trouble I cause over in the novation forum) you can email me at henry@mindphaser.com

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Message 25/42 08-Nov-00 @ 09:26 AM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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Ashely - uQ rrp in UK is reported to be �629.95

There you go. Happy Christmas =]

skb

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Message 26/42 08-Nov-00 @ 01:55 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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re - the knob thing.. waldorf state that this is a feature that's built into the mechanics rather than the software.. a change won't be happening.

I agree, you just can't fast switch to a certain amount.. but then again it aint THAT big a deal when track writing. You just have to get your hands dirty with some editing in the sequencer.

Live use, ok that's another story.

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Message 27/42 09-Nov-00 @ 06:40 AM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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Does the micro q have these whack knobs of which you speak.

-:0 i see a problem

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Message 28/42 09-Nov-00 @ 07:14 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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Bets are it does. When you get used to them, they aren't so bad.

Ape

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Message 29/42 09-Nov-00 @ 08:43 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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Wicketty wicketty wicketty wack. Daddy Mack Big Mac Happy Meal and a Smarties Flurry to go please.

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Message 30/42 11-Nov-00 @ 12:10 AM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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so,i guess its time to start "micro q watch"..if anyone sees one ina shop,let us all know,i hate searchin for gear to have a go on it,only to find its not out..(i still look for a virus rack everytime i go turnkey,but i havent seen one yet..)..the microq might replace it on my xmas list too..

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Message 31/42 11-Nov-00 @ 11:40 AM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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i found them , they are the prophet VS wave tables which became the korg wave station.Post your e-mails and i'll send them

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Message 32/42 15-Nov-00 @ 09:05 AM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

ashley

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skb,
thanks for crippling me, i have to spend that money and i have to spend it now. is there a reason for not buying one?

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Message 33/42 15-Nov-00 @ 02:48 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

Pongoid

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Buy it from the site above. If you're in the states, check the price in dollars without tax. That's what you'll pay plus shipping. Best price on the planet.

Ape

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Message 34/42 15-Nov-00 @ 08:45 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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i dont get it... do i look at the price including VAT or excluding VAT? Their wording on the main page was a bit confusing.Other than that, the prices are awesome... the indigo is like $450 less than it would be here in the US...

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Message 35/42 15-Nov-00 @ 11:51 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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i cant get those guys to give me a answer on how much total shipping will be without confirming that i will buy one from them... anybody know how much it would cost to send a uQ to the US?

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Message 36/42 16-Nov-00 @ 12:05 AM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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don't you US guys have to pay import duty/tax?

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Message 37/42 16-Nov-00 @ 03:30 AM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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yeah, but its not nearly as bad as buying it directly here. i paid $19 extra to get a Virus B from Canada, while I know europe will be more, its certainly going to add up to less than $1600 that I would pay here for an Indigo..

by the way, I dont buy it... looking at their page.. $2007 in US dollars for a Kurzweil K2600R??? No frickin' way...

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Message 38/42 16-Nov-00 @ 05:18 AM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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I had to pay $40 shipping for two day air, and $65 in duties on my Q Rack. You view the price in US dollars WITHOUT VAT because you are sending the unit out of Europe.

Ape

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Message 39/42 16-Nov-00 @ 06:05 AM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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got it shipped to the US right pongoid? also, do i have to do any crazy paperwork or anything before or after i pay them via bank transfer?

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Message 40/42 16-Nov-00 @ 09:32 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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Some of the pricing on equipment isn't
all that good, and I suspect it's got
something to do with where the gear is
made. EU/German built stuff is mad
cheap, but Korean/Japanese/US gear
isn't, because the retailer has already
eaten the cost of importing the unit and
must pass that on to the consumer.

But for Waldorf and Access, especially,
the prices are looooowwwwww...

-Craig

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Message 41/42 17-Nov-00 @ 09:22 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

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they list the wave as for sale... i thought waldorf didnt produce those anymore...

i still dont beleive the kurz K2600R for $2007...

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Message 42/42 18-Nov-00 @ 10:44 PM - RE: Micro-Q is out!!

Pongoid

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Waldorf is currently developing new features for the Wave, so it is not available until the new stuff is ready.

Ape

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