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Original Message 1/17 31-Jul-01 @ 08:52 AM - Korg Oasys

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Howdy...
Does anyone own or use this card. Any comments +or-. Does the addition of the Triton PCM samples increase the cards polyphony? Doesn't sample playback take alot less dsp power than modeling? The price has dropped substantially yet few people seem to have bought one. Why?
Card looks good on paper but I have heard very little here or anywhere else about it. Can you run software synths though it in conjunction with the onboard synths without annoying latency. Any comments welcome.

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Message 2/17 31-Jul-01 @ 09:48 PM - RE: Korg Oasys

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you may want to e-mail korg on that. the issue may very well be native latency issues. Like many early DSP cards developed 3 and years ago, latency wasn't addressed. It is meant to be the fx, and synth engine, and not the computer. Also with oasis, you can only run 1 card. So you get 12 channels. Not a lot, so native tracks and fx is a must. so latency would be the deciding factor. Look inot the creamware pulsar. they clain functional latencies as low as 2ms, but I've read it's more like 6 from user.They have tons of modeled,fm, sampler, and pcm synths available for it.

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Message 3/17 31-Jul-01 @ 10:25 PM - RE: Korg Oasys

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did they ever get the bugs out of pulsar. I heard alot of people saying it was an immense resource hog and had slow redraws on screen and other problems. Can you produce a whole song with it. Does it work with Reality and other softsynths.

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Message 4/17 03-Aug-01 @ 02:59 AM - RE: Korg Oasys

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According to creamwares site, pulsar requires the expansion dsp card to be a realtime synth assuming then that you can only sequence through it because of latency .

The Oasys is under $500 at GC now. I all for getting it. I needed Adat I/o and i like the Triton and Z1 sounds. I'll be picking ne up soon. Hell another few months and it may be even less. They must be planning a new version . The closeout ought to be a steal.

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Message 5/17 03-Aug-01 @ 03:11 AM - RE: Korg Oasys

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just type OASYS into the forum search - huge discussion in 9 parts it was so long - with tons of details.

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Message 6/17 03-Aug-01 @ 08:11 AM - RE: Korg Oasys

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I find it funny that there selling them for $499.00 since I remember a very long discussion from alot of people who said $2200.00 was a ridiculous price and a rep from the company named Dan defending the pricing structure in an unending manner. People were actually pissed that Korg would even ask that much for a sound card and Dan replying that that's what we had to sell them for. Moral of story the consumer has power. Where do you think all the huge multi-national corporations get there $$$$$$$. US. $499.00 actually seems a little low for the card. I bet there planning a new hardware revision. I don't see how they could make money at that price when they wanted to sell them at over $2000.00 To bad we couldn,t boycott the oil companies.

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Message 7/17 03-Aug-01 @ 08:58 AM - RE: Korg Oasys

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It's a Guitar Center sale. They are probably getting rid of stock. They sold the DSP Factory card for $299 until they had non in stock. Then the price went back to $499. So it could be just a liquidation thing. Large retailers do that a lot. I am getting it. I feel like I just gave birth. I scrolled through all 8 of those sections looking for latency quotes. Alkio, stated he was getting 3ms with asio. Which should equate to symilar times with wavepipe MME. My Dsp factory runs about the same in ASIO as it does in Sonar. I hope anyway. I e-mailed DAn from korg, adn korg support to get a MME latency breakdown. If it runs under 10, I'll be happy.

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Message 8/17 04-Aug-01 @ 07:36 AM - RE: Korg Oasys

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I can't find out what it will run like in Sonar. No one at cakewalk is using it, and no one at korg is using Sonar. All they say is it is considerably slower in MME than ASIO, and that no WDM drivers are planned. So yes, it is considerably slower in MME in an ASIO program, but hell my DS2416 is 750ms slow in Cubase with mme, but in Sonar it's the same as the ASIO in cubase at 28ms. So the only way i am going to find out is to buy the damn thing and test it. I really want the synths. I love Korg synths. They have a airy spacy sound and are very crisp. The modeled stuff sounds modeled but in a uniquely, good way. the electribe doesn't sound like a 303, but it sounds pretty cool. And the z1 was somthing I sought after for a while and never bought, as with the prophecy. This is why I am so torn between Sonar and Cubase. I love Sonar. It is the fastest environment for making tracks , and the quality surpasses everything I ever used, but it just doesn't support the hardware that the VSt programs do, and that sucks. I don't see it catching up in that area. It has never been a Cakewalk priority as with Logic, and Cubase.

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Message 9/17 04-Aug-01 @ 11:06 AM - RE: Korg Oasys

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If you buy one post a review. I can't find any reviews by real users that answer simple questions, such as real use polphony, latency with softsynths, audio quality ect. Web site says lots of new pcm syth programs. I would think the polyphony of these patches would be much higher since their only sample playback and require little dsp to run.

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Message 10/17 04-Aug-01 @ 07:49 PM - RE: Korg Oasys

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Nothing on the polyphony of the new triton sounds, but I did read that it has an ASIO buffer range of 64-512. So soft synth latency would be from 1.5-12 ms out put , and 3-24 for realt time response. So the drivers are fast for VST apps. But i am in Sonar now. And MME is my question. No one seems to have tried the two together. I have been through all the threads, e-mailed korg and cakewalk, and searched Sonai State. Are there any Korg user news groups that i may be missing.

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