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Original Message 1/15 19-Mar-01 @ 02:03 PM - order of driver installation?

styas

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I just reformatted cuz my midi timing is all over the f*ing place and 16th notes sound shuffled randomly.. Life sux. and yes, my preroll was set properly.

I have no idea wtf is going on...
I have: p3 800 mhz
256 mb ram
tyan trinity mainboard
voodoo3 agp vidcard
soundblaster live
midiman delta 66
and a steinberg midex 8 usb interface
ps: i will seq'ing in cubase

is there an order i should follow on driver installation, and do i really have to restart every time it asks? or can i just have one massive restart after answering "no" after each installation?

what happened last night was i just installed everything in one shot, and got a big error after reboot on the dos startup screen...

any other suggestions bout gettin my 98se setup right the 1st time? this time i am not loading games, and would like to use the best ver of directx (if this even matters with the delta asio drivers), which is which version? i hear 8 is bad?

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Message 2/15 19-Mar-01 @ 03:07 PM - RE: order of driver installation?

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hmm.. mebbe overloading windows with too many midi ports?... you can only have 11 i think in total... dunno 'bout that voodoo either..

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Message 3/15 19-Mar-01 @ 04:47 PM - RE: order of driver installation?

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version 8 is bad? damn! my midi timing leavs a lot to be desired also.. listening to a repeating 1 bar loop and it sounds like a live drummer. you can't un-upgrade it though.

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Message 4/15 19-Mar-01 @ 07:27 PM - RE: order of driver installation?

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U can download something called DirectX buster that uninstalls DirX........ also 11 midi ports only applies 2 Win95, i think.
Ive spent the last few weeks tryin 2 sort out my system and ive found that DirectX 6.1 (standard version with Win98SE) is the best 4 me wit Cubase 5.
Also maybe adding a single device 2 your system @ a time and installing the drivers one at a time may b the best thing to do, much better for IRQ`s etc also.

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Message 5/15 19-Mar-01 @ 08:14 PM - RE: order of driver installation?

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Yes, definately reboot when the installations prompt you to. The drivers don't actually get loaded into the OS until you do, so if you install 3 pieces of hardware, the second knows little about the first and the third knows little about the other two.

Is it completely necessary to have both the SB and the Delta in the same machine? I don't know that that is causing your problem, but it's a good place to start - get rid of any extraneous hardware that isn't "must have". Install the USB stuff dead last - Physically unplug all USB devices while you're installing everything else. Don't do a directX upgrade, just install the standard Win98SE stuff. Make sure you're running as little system tray stuff as possible - disk checkers, virus scanners, etc. Minimum stuff!

If everything's working OK, then load up your non-essential stuff one app or hardware at a time. Test after every install, and listen for it starting to go south. If you find something that's killing your timing, then you'll have to do without it.

-Craig

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Message 6/15 19-Mar-01 @ 09:39 PM - RE: order of driver installation?

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thanks guys. any other suggestions?

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Message 7/15 22-Mar-01 @ 02:01 PM - RE: order of driver installation?

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Cubase can be a very touchy program.txt

I've included a text file that I pinched from cubase.net - my apologies to the original author "Baxter" - but it's got some good stuff in that covers quite a lot of the tweaks you should do to stream windows in general.

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Message 8/15 22-Mar-01 @ 02:03 PM - RE: order of driver installation?

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that looks a bit messed up when you view it kilo.
styas - right click and download it to view it properly.

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Message 9/15 22-Mar-01 @ 10:50 PM - RE: order of driver installation?

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amazing that such a powerful machine would be such a flop.

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Message 10/15 23-Mar-01 @ 11:38 AM - RE: order of driver installation?

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windurze init. never fails to introduce new and fresh errors about a day or so after you fix the old ones.. not long until me rm1x now though.. heh.

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Message 11/15 23-Mar-01 @ 10:10 PM - RE: order of driver installation?

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I've never had shitty MIDI timing, and all I've really done is keep it simple. Load Win98SE. Load sequencing package. It's more about what you don't load, methinks...

-Craig

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Message 12/15 26-Mar-01 @ 03:08 PM - RE: order of driver installation?

styas

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I finally have it rock solid.. that txt file Jasper linked to was amazing... I have NOTHING not even volume control in my systray anymore. I set my preroll to 150 and set the DMA mode on the HD... the pc rips now.

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Message 13/15 27-Mar-01 @ 12:53 PM - RE: order of driver installation?

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my midi timing isn't actually all that bad now, could be better tho, the main problem is audio/midi drifting completely out of time. I'm convinced it's a soundblaster problem now though.

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Message 14/15 27-Mar-01 @ 09:45 PM - RE: order of driver installation?

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See that's what I'm talking about... Lemme explain something to people who don't know much about how a computer works. This is a little simplified, but it does hold true.

A computer can only execute one instruction at a time, assuming it's a single processor box. All the little things in your system tray are programs that are running in memory. Programs take up execution time, and things are scheduled to give the illusion that they all run at the same time - in reality the OS switches between them sequentially...

So, I ask, how can you expect to have a realtime program, like Cakewalk for example, reliably deliver MIDI commands and mix and play audio on time when the OS is swapping it out for your virus scanner, volume control, norton utilities, AOL Instant Messenger, Real Audio Agent, MS Office Startup, etc etc etc..

See what I'm getting at?

If you have all this other shit running you don't have a chance in hell of figuring out why your timing sucks. It could be any, all, none, or some of those proggies causing the problem.

-Craig

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Message 15/15 27-Mar-01 @ 10:59 PM - RE: order of driver installation?

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yeah, you could also try setting your ram vcache setting fixed. - but the main fuckup is usualy simply a cheezy soundcard

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