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Original Message                 Date: 15-Aug-00  @  02:57 AM   -   K - How's hoontech?

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Well... everything still going well? I think i'll have mine tomorrow...
Few quick comments. It's 250 quid here, which is even cheaper than thomann.de (anyone used thomann?)

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Message 11/117             17-Aug-00  @  12:55 PM   -   RE: K - How's hoontech?

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when i read english mags prices are about same or a bit cheaper than here.But market lot bigger there...
When i asked about hoontech from the importing company they thought that they'd sell about 50 of them to Finnland.



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Message 12/117             17-Aug-00  @  01:13 PM   -   RE: K - How's hoontech?

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well from a currency point of view that is utter bullshit - the price in the uk should be actually cheaper... the DM is weak, germany is in recession... we will buy more hoontech for the pound than germany for the DM. - i am confused, because it seems like another British rip off....



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Message 13/117             17-Aug-00  @  01:45 PM   -   RE: K - How's hoontech?

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mebbe german's think it's patriotic thing to rip limeys....
Did you read that in the other thread where i told that i ´they sent me an SMS message in Finnish. it's such a relief to get service in your own language (you could not know what i'm talkin). There allways bit of fuss when dealing with foreign language especially when ppl are using specialist vocalbulary .You get sort of feeling "was i understood" , "am i ripped off here"
It seems that Finland is quite good market for them. Every music store here shivers when i mention thomann. They don't like them at all for obvious reasons


K - ... ahemm ... humbly i ask for quick comment on me tracks. I'd appreciate that really much 'cos i don't have many ppl here who could tell me where i'm going.



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Message 14/117             17-Aug-00  @  05:45 PM   -   RE: K - How's hoontech?

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ha ha - that was funny... ye4ah, you Finns, all riding round on sledges and shit and fighting polar bears & yaks... i tell you what, i was all fit to get the next bus over after this...

i said i like your track already... you want more ?  

yeah that transltion s/w is a bastard eh?...  



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Message 15/117             17-Aug-00  @  06:31 PM   -   RE: K - How's hoontech?

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Hey K, where did you get your Hoontech? I just got the new SOS today and cant find mention of the damned thing.



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Message 16/117             18-Aug-00  @  08:36 AM   -   RE: K - How's hoontech?

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i got it from the distributor - cos we sell 'em if you want one, with or without a new PC to go with it... Also, i just chatted with the dist' in uk & Germany yesterday, and we can it seems now get a UK price that is the same as thomman so that is sorted out - also remember these things do NOT come with a power supply cos they are shipped world-wide, you must buy also a 12V supply native to your country mains supply.... Right now i'm using a decent heavey duty uk 12V dc supply that i use for my bassstation keyboard and it works fine.

i'm not too enamoured with the idea of selling stuff to another country cos of the potential probs if the unit is faulty, and with the pound as strong as it is, there's very little chance anyways - also, we are not 100% up and running yet for retail, just setting things up bit by bit, so for now, if you are in London area and want one, if you bring your pc round, i'll fit it, and give you a tutorial in the studio on how to use it for different configs with a full setup of kit for you to demo it with. So you can spend some time working a mix with a few synths and drum machine etc or bring along a midifile or VST song file of your own on disk to mess with...

thats not a bad idea, cos if we slam the card in and it doesnt work with your chipset or whatever for some reason, then no big deal, just forget it and walk away.

i can only offer that if you come down in person with your pc base unit, mouse & keyboard. As a bonus i'll dump in a few CD's worth of custom samples on your hard drive as well if you buy one.

Yes, prolly you couldnt find Hoontech in sos, but very few people know about the stuff it's a fairly new product for europe right now. as I say, i had to take a gamble and buy one first to find out about it. luckily it was a v. good experience.

when DT is up and running 100% you'll see what we are trying to do which is slightly different to a standard shop-online ... cos after all, i dont think any DT regulars or me wants DT to become like just a frikkin great online shop even tho with the traffic we get it would be a proposition, in fact beleive it or not, when i went down to get something from Turnkeys distribution dept the other day, one of the managers said they'd like to see some paperwork when we get going with the new server & site features cos perhaps they might look after our online shopping for us - ha ha. so bigger retail companies like that can see DT's potential as a retail shop front.

but i cant say too much about exactly how we'll do it now until we let it go properly.



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Message 17/117             19-Aug-00  @  05:26 AM   -   RE: K - How's hoontech?

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Hi guys,

just a small comment: you do not need a power supply. The box works with the power from the PC system alone under normal circumstances (if the PC has a decent power supply). In some cases (like a small PC case with small power supply or when you are using several external ADC/DAC units with one card) it may be needed to get an extra power supply. That's why the external box has a 12V DC connector. But again: under normal operation you don't need that.

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Message 18/117             19-Aug-00  @  10:10 AM   -   RE: K - How's hoontech?

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oh !... so i dont need it ?.... hang on cos i got a huge server case on my pc with a big old unblowable heavey duty server power supply unit... (mind you, it sounds like concorde warming up it's afterburners ! ha ha!)



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Message 19/117             21-Aug-00  @  02:40 AM   -   RE: K - How's hoontech?

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I doubt that FM never does a story on hoontech. They wouldn't piss off "big companies" I don't trust their reviews usually. If want *really* know the truth about some gadget i come here...



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Message 20/117             21-Aug-00  @  08:12 AM   -   RE: K - How's hoontech?

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well, just some thoughts -

I cant over-emphasise how much power you get if you can acheive this same live realtime configuration with a PC audio rack like this Hoontech acheives -

any sampler can be used and routed into the vst mix, and hey presto - filters, fx etc on each part no probs right alongside your vst instruments and audio treacks all on the same mixer... midi controlled filter sweeps, etc etc.. noi probs.. it just intergrates everything so well.... so really, whatever you buy, with todays fast PC's there is no reason not to have this ability anymore, even tho it might mean some inevitable reselling and purchasing - I'm expecting gadgetlabs 2496 & Midiman's delta's & terratec's ews88 to get the same sortoff results - but the working ability is just so good and so quick... you can even setupo eq/filter & fx moves on incoming audio where no audio is recorded... IF you then record & commit some of that incoming audio, then on playback, the eq's & fx are already in place and it plays back just the same as when the audio input was live... that is great.. cos you can setup a moinosynth part, set some eq & fx work the pattern in place, then record it... when it plays back, all the fx & eq etc you setup are in-place as before you recorded, it is so fast... then you can reset the monosynth to a new sound, plug it into a new channel or move the audio part to another track with it's mix routine and carry on composing a new monosynth part...

so try to get it, cos it add's more power than spending alot more elsewhere i'd say. the fact you can have an outboard sampler with all it's stability on the same mnixer as say a cheap assed vst synth like NEON doing a pattern & a drum loop track playing audio loops etc is very good to me... it just makes everything click.


i'm sorry stuff is dragging on to get the new site up, but as soon as the rest of the cash comes in, the first thing i'm gonna do is go out and buy a P3 and test the other cards i listed above in this post - so we can get a nice list of the definitive realtime ASIO (or EASI) audio hardware... inc' that Egosys laptop stuff - anyways - worth a thought - my premise here is that getting THIS right in effect add's realtime fx & eq (with moving control) to your sampler - regardless of how new it is and wether it has built-in eq & fx or not - so it can save tons of money as an option to getting a newer more expensive sampler... which after all, might not offer too much extra in terms of it's ability as a sampler, but you are upgrading to get better eq & fx on your sampler etc... It just means ANYTHING you own becomes intergrated into the VST programme (and hopefully Logic's too when i get to test it.) just as if it was a VST plugin or instrument -



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