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Subject: Logic V5.20 announced
Original Message Date: 02-Jul-02 @ 06:40 PM - Logic V5.20 announced
multiple vst-i & Logic-i outputs at least pluys more apparently... check it out!
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 11/27 06-Aug-02 @ 01:05 PM - RE: Logic V5.20 announced
Stvy
Posts: 151
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Hi,
Just the rest of that info:
Notes:
In all Chord Symbol Language formats, the current format is also accepted for the input of new chords. The ”#”, ”b”, ”x” and ”bb” characters are also active in the German3 mode, allowing for quick entry. In the Roman format, the second root string character can be omitted, e.g. typing ”D7” or ”Do7” in roman mode will both result in ”Do 7”. Changing the Chord Language will automatically affect all chord symbols in the song. It is not possible to mix chord languages.
General Improvements & Changes
Song Settings and Preferences menu changes
Global program preferences and song specific settings have now been separated into two discrete areas. These are accessible via the Options > Song Settings and Options > Preferences menus. Previously these settings were located under the menu Options > Settings.
All items in the Song Settings submenu are saved with the song. All items in the Preferences submenu are saved with the Logic preferences in the system folder and globally affect all songs.
The Control Surfaces submenu is now found in Options > Preferences.
Metronome Settings dialog and the “Klopfgeist” Software Instrument
Options > Song Settings > Metronome Settings ... or a long click on the metronome icon in the transport window opens a new settings dialog window for the Metronome. This window combine all the settings of the MIDI Click environment object plus the metronome settings found in the song preference dialog 'Recording Options'. In addition the Metronome dialog features a virtual metronome instrument called "Klopfgeist". It can be used in addition or in place of the speaker click or the MIDI click and offers the same beat tapping functionality.
The “Tonality” parameter changes the sound of the virtual metronome from a short click to a pitched percussion sound similar to a Wood Block or Claves.
„Volume“ adjusts the overall sound level of the virtual click sound. „Output“ (assignment): Provided the audio hardware used by Logic offers more than 2 outputs this field allows the routing of the “Klopfgeist” metronome sound to a different set of hardware outputs.
Note: “Klopfgeist” is a software instrument found in the plug-in menu: Mono. For “Klopfgeist” to be available as a metronome sound source it needs to be inserted on instrument channel #64. Logic will automatically create an instrument channel #64 with an inserted “Klopfgeist” when necessary. Theoretically any other Emagic or VST2.0 instrument could be deployed as a metronome sound source using instrument channel 64.
Compared to the Metronome window the“Klopfgeist” plug-in window offers a few additional sound parameters. There is a parameter for tuning the instrument in “Semitones” and one for fine tuning (Detune) in cent. “Level Via Vel” determines the velocity sensitivity of Klopfgeist. “NoteOffDamp” controls the release time. The shortest release time is reached with “NoteOffDamp” at its maximum (1.00). “Klopfgeist” can operate as a monophonic (Mode: mono) or polyphonic 4-voice instrument (Mode: poly). The “Tonality” parameter is the same as in the Metronome dialog (see above).
Reference: A “Klopfgeist” is a little ghostly fellow, in this case German, who unlike his big brother “Poltergeist” restricts himself to producing knocking and tapping sounds. (Rest assured, audio instrument #64 is fitted with a Ghost Buster facility the button labeled “M”.)
Mute Tool for Matrix and Event List Editor
The Matrix and Event List editor now feature a Mute Tool allowing to mute specific notes in a sequence. With the Mute Tool clicking on a note will mute/un-mute it. Muted notes appear grayed out.
With the Mute Tool clicking on a piano key to the left of the Matrix Editor will mute/un-mute all notes of that particular pitch.
With the Mute Tool click and drag on the background to perform a rubber band selection of multiple notes. Clicking on one of the selected notes will mute/un-mute all selected notes.
Tip: Hold down SHIFT to create non-consecutive selections.
The command Edit > "Select Muted Objects" is now available in the Matrix and Event List editor. It allows the selection of all muted notes in a sequence.
Matrix Color Setup
The colors of the Matrix window grid, background, lines etc. can be adjusted for both the ”White”, and ”Black” Background views. This facility was added to enhance visibility in the Matrix window, particularly when working at high resolutions.
Select View > Matrix Color Setup to launch the window. Individual elements are listed, and can be adjusted with the mouse. Simply click on any element to activate/deactivate it, or to launch the system color palette.
Event Editor edit release velocity
Logic is now able to edit release velocity in the Event editor. To view release velocity data, enable the ”001011” view filter button to the left of the event list.
New MMC Options
If MIDI Machine Control is enabled, dragging the song position line will send ”MMC Locate” commands continuously, until the mouse button is released.
Several new MMC options have been included in the Options > Song settings > Synchronization Settings...> MIDI (panel).
These (self-explanatory ) options include:
MMC Output ID
Transmit MMC Locate commands when pressing Stop twice
Transmit MMC Locate commands when dragging objects (in sequencer stop mode)
Transmit MMC Record enables commands for audio tracks (receive as well)
Record Pre-roll (sec)
Options > Song Settings > Recording Options (or Metronome Settings). If 'Record Pre-roll' is disabled the count-in (in bars and beat values) set by the flip-menu is active. If Record Pre-Roll' is enabled an absolute record pre-roll can be entered in seconds instead.
Changed display of Pan and Mute
Compared to Version 5.1 and earlier Pan and Mute are displayed in an inverse orientation for HyperDraw and the small fader in the arrange window. Now PAN left is up and Pan right is down likewise un- muted is up and mute is down.
New Rex file import option
When importing audio files as Rex files “Render into single file” writes all ReCycle slices into a single audio file using the current Logic song tempo for the rendering process.
Multi processor compatibility
The audio engine will detect and automatically inform you about plug-ins that may have problems running on the second CPU, thus preventing a potential crash.
QuickTime Music Synthesizer
Logic supports the QT Music Synthesizer of Quicktime version 6. In the environment connect a Multi Instrument object with the Quicktime Synth object to integrate it into Logic.
Software Instrument Changes, new Features
EVD6 Software Instrument Support
Logic 5.2 now supports the EVD6 Clavinet software instrument plug-in. This new instrument emulates the Hohner D6. As with other Emagic software instruments, you may test these instruments without limitations for a period of time. To do so, simply activate the demo period in the XSKey Authorization window.
Settings Handling
Using the same instrument channel it is now possible to change a software instrument to a multiple output version of the same instrument plug-in (or vice versa) without loosing any parameter edits in the process. Any parameter edits will be transferred.
ES2 Enhancements
The Pitch Bend maximum range has been extended to 36 semitones.
The ES2 now reacts to poly pressure (polyphonic aftertouch). If ”Touch” or ”Whl+To” is selected as a router Source or Via option, the sum of channel pressure and the note-specific poly pressure value is used.
There are two new router Sources/Vias available: NoteOnRandom1/2 (”RndNO1” and ”RndNO2”). NoteOnRandom1 is a random modulation value between -1.0 and 1.0 (same range as an LFO), that changes when a note is triggered or re-triggered (thus no value change when playing legato, while in legato mode). This (random) note-on modulation remains constant throughout the duration of the note until the next trigger.
NoteOnRandom2 behaves like NoteOnRandom1 with the exception that it glides to the new random value using the GlideTime (incl. modulation). It also differs from NoteOnRandom1 in that the (random modulation) value changes when playing legato, while in legato mode.
New router targets: OSCWavB/Osc1WavB/Osc2WavB/Osc3WavB offering oscillator specific modulations with changed modulation properties compared to Osc*Wav.
OscWaveB - behaves as Osc1WavB/Osc2WavB/Osc3WavB but applies to all oscillators (much like Pitch123).
DigiWaves: In previous ES2 versions there was a smooth transition if wavetable modulation is active for a DigiWave using Osc*Wav. Setting up the same modulation but using Osc*WavB will make the transition ”harder” as modulation values are increased.
FM (Osc1): The maximum FM intensity was quite limited. Using the new target Osc1WavB, rather than Osc1Wave, allows really extreme modulations.
EVP88 Enhancements
Now supports all song sample rates.
The ”Expression” MIDI controller now scales output level.
EXS24 Enhancements
Multiple Outputs
The EXS24 now offers 5 stereo pairs and 6 individual mono outputs. The first 10 EXS24 outputs are always configured as stereo pairs. Outputs 11 through 16 are mono outputs.
The “Main” output pair (1-2) of the EXS24 is assigned to its instrument channel. Additional outputs starting with output 3 are accessed via the new Aux channels. Please refer to the paragraph on Aux channels above.
Individual output assignments may be set for groups, or zones, within an EXS24 instrument. If zones are assigned to their individual outputs, any existing group outputs for the zones will be ignored. All output assignments are stored with the EXS24 Sampler Instrument.
If the EXS24 is inserted as a regular (not multi channel) mono or stereo plug-in, all multiple output assignments stored with a Sampler Instrument are automatically routed to the main stereo output pair, or mono output, respectively.
Instrument menu additions
Now two new entries appear in the Instrument menu: Next Instrument and Previous Instrument. Using the Previous and Next Instrument command you can sequentially step through existing Instruments in the menu.
Tip: Key commands can be assigned to perform this function. Options > Preferences > Key Commands ... > (search for “instrument”)
New Recycle Convert Options
There is a new Recycle convert function which allows to use 'old school' sample trigger techniques. Menu: Audio > EXS24 Instrument Editor > Instrument > Recycle Convert.
- Slice Loop and make new Instrument
- Slice Loop and add samples to current Instrument
The first option creates a new EXS24 sample instrument while the second option adds the zones with their samples to the currently active EXS24 sample instrument.
Function: Using the Recycle slices the EXS24 first renders one single audio file which equals the whole Recycle loop played back at the current Logic song tempo. Instead of importing and playing back a single discrete Recycle slice, each zone will play back the Recycle loop to its very end starting with the slice points original assigned to the respective zone. That means the lowest zone will play back the entire loop while the highest zone plays the last slice of the loop only. With this option the EXS24 allows for loop trigger techniques often used in 'old school' Drum'n'Bass tracks. This way the sample loop start point is determined by playing the respective notes on the keyboard.
Gigasampler File Format Import
The EXS24 can now import files stored in the Gigasampler format (.gig). This function is found in the 'Options' menu of the EXS24. Tip: In order to playback long audio files, the EXS24 Virtual Sample Memory extension should be installed.
Logic Control Changes
Note: The following button pushes refer to the Logic control surface.
Pressing SHIFT+MUTE button while EQ, SEND, PLUG-IN or Instrument button is activated, toggles Bypass of the current EQ, Send, Plug-In or Instrument. For Plug-ins this function works in Multi Channel and Channel Strip View for EQ, Send and Instruments this works only in Multi Channel View.
Track Channel Strip View:
SHIFT + MUTE 1 or SHIFT + MUTE 2 toggles track mute
SHIFT + MUTE 3 or SHIFT + V-Select 3 toggles instrument mute
SHIFT + MUTE 4 or SHIFT + V-Select 4 toggles plug-in insert 1 bypass
SHIFT + MUTE 5 or SHIFT + V-Select 5 toggles plug-in insert 2 bypass
SHIFT + MUTE 6 or SHIFT + V-Select 6 toggles Send 1 Mute
SHIFT + MUTE 7 or SHIFT + V-Select 7 toggles Send 2 Mute
SHIFT + MUTE 8 or SHIFT + V-Select 8 toggles Send 3 Mute
Pressing OPTION+SELECT 1 ... 8 creates a new track of the same type and number and switches to the Extended Track View.
SHIFT+OPTION+SELECT 1 ... 8 creates a new track of the same type and the following track number and switches to the Extended Track View.
CMD/ALT + F1 equals "Cut" key command
CMD/ALT + F2 equals "Copy" key command
CMD/ALT + F3 equals "Paste" key command
CMD/ALT + F4 equals "Clear" key command
CMD/ALT + F5 equals "Select All" key command
CMD/ALT + F6 equals "Select All Following" key command
CMD/ALT + F7 equals "Select Similar Objects" key command
CMD/ALT + F8 equals "Select Inside Locators" key command
Note: Logic will now create a separate ”Control Surface Plug-ins” folder inside the Logic folder for each new version number i.e. for Logic 5.2.0 it is now ”Control Surface Plug-ins 5.2.0”. The new naming convention allows to place different Logic software versions together in one folder while ensuring that each Logic version will load its compatible control surface plug-in. (Logic version 5.1.0 loads its Logic Control module from the original ”Control Surface Plug-ins” folder.)
Looks pretty good.......
I look forward to the clavinet!
Bedwyr are you sticking with logic for the time being or are your jumping ship to SX or Sonar?
Cheers
Stvy
Just the rest of that info:
Notes:
In all Chord Symbol Language formats, the current format is also accepted for the input of new chords. The ”#”, ”b”, ”x” and ”bb” characters are also active in the German3 mode, allowing for quick entry. In the Roman format, the second root string character can be omitted, e.g. typing ”D7” or ”Do7” in roman mode will both result in ”Do 7”. Changing the Chord Language will automatically affect all chord symbols in the song. It is not possible to mix chord languages.
General Improvements & Changes
Song Settings and Preferences menu changes
Global program preferences and song specific settings have now been separated into two discrete areas. These are accessible via the Options > Song Settings and Options > Preferences menus. Previously these settings were located under the menu Options > Settings.
All items in the Song Settings submenu are saved with the song. All items in the Preferences submenu are saved with the Logic preferences in the system folder and globally affect all songs.
The Control Surfaces submenu is now found in Options > Preferences.
Metronome Settings dialog and the “Klopfgeist” Software Instrument
Options > Song Settings > Metronome Settings ... or a long click on the metronome icon in the transport window opens a new settings dialog window for the Metronome. This window combine all the settings of the MIDI Click environment object plus the metronome settings found in the song preference dialog 'Recording Options'. In addition the Metronome dialog features a virtual metronome instrument called "Klopfgeist". It can be used in addition or in place of the speaker click or the MIDI click and offers the same beat tapping functionality.
The “Tonality” parameter changes the sound of the virtual metronome from a short click to a pitched percussion sound similar to a Wood Block or Claves.
„Volume“ adjusts the overall sound level of the virtual click sound. „Output“ (assignment): Provided the audio hardware used by Logic offers more than 2 outputs this field allows the routing of the “Klopfgeist” metronome sound to a different set of hardware outputs.
Note: “Klopfgeist” is a software instrument found in the plug-in menu: Mono. For “Klopfgeist” to be available as a metronome sound source it needs to be inserted on instrument channel #64. Logic will automatically create an instrument channel #64 with an inserted “Klopfgeist” when necessary. Theoretically any other Emagic or VST2.0 instrument could be deployed as a metronome sound source using instrument channel 64.
Compared to the Metronome window the“Klopfgeist” plug-in window offers a few additional sound parameters. There is a parameter for tuning the instrument in “Semitones” and one for fine tuning (Detune) in cent. “Level Via Vel” determines the velocity sensitivity of Klopfgeist. “NoteOffDamp” controls the release time. The shortest release time is reached with “NoteOffDamp” at its maximum (1.00). “Klopfgeist” can operate as a monophonic (Mode: mono) or polyphonic 4-voice instrument (Mode: poly). The “Tonality” parameter is the same as in the Metronome dialog (see above).
Reference: A “Klopfgeist” is a little ghostly fellow, in this case German, who unlike his big brother “Poltergeist” restricts himself to producing knocking and tapping sounds. (Rest assured, audio instrument #64 is fitted with a Ghost Buster facility the button labeled “M”.)
Mute Tool for Matrix and Event List Editor
The Matrix and Event List editor now feature a Mute Tool allowing to mute specific notes in a sequence. With the Mute Tool clicking on a note will mute/un-mute it. Muted notes appear grayed out.
With the Mute Tool clicking on a piano key to the left of the Matrix Editor will mute/un-mute all notes of that particular pitch.
With the Mute Tool click and drag on the background to perform a rubber band selection of multiple notes. Clicking on one of the selected notes will mute/un-mute all selected notes.
Tip: Hold down SHIFT to create non-consecutive selections.
The command Edit > "Select Muted Objects" is now available in the Matrix and Event List editor. It allows the selection of all muted notes in a sequence.
Matrix Color Setup
The colors of the Matrix window grid, background, lines etc. can be adjusted for both the ”White”, and ”Black” Background views. This facility was added to enhance visibility in the Matrix window, particularly when working at high resolutions.
Select View > Matrix Color Setup to launch the window. Individual elements are listed, and can be adjusted with the mouse. Simply click on any element to activate/deactivate it, or to launch the system color palette.
Event Editor edit release velocity
Logic is now able to edit release velocity in the Event editor. To view release velocity data, enable the ”001011” view filter button to the left of the event list.
New MMC Options
If MIDI Machine Control is enabled, dragging the song position line will send ”MMC Locate” commands continuously, until the mouse button is released.
Several new MMC options have been included in the Options > Song settings > Synchronization Settings...> MIDI (panel).
These (self-explanatory ) options include:
MMC Output ID
Transmit MMC Locate commands when pressing Stop twice
Transmit MMC Locate commands when dragging objects (in sequencer stop mode)
Transmit MMC Record enables commands for audio tracks (receive as well)
Record Pre-roll (sec)
Options > Song Settings > Recording Options (or Metronome Settings). If 'Record Pre-roll' is disabled the count-in (in bars and beat values) set by the flip-menu is active. If Record Pre-Roll' is enabled an absolute record pre-roll can be entered in seconds instead.
Changed display of Pan and Mute
Compared to Version 5.1 and earlier Pan and Mute are displayed in an inverse orientation for HyperDraw and the small fader in the arrange window. Now PAN left is up and Pan right is down likewise un- muted is up and mute is down.
New Rex file import option
When importing audio files as Rex files “Render into single file” writes all ReCycle slices into a single audio file using the current Logic song tempo for the rendering process.
Multi processor compatibility
The audio engine will detect and automatically inform you about plug-ins that may have problems running on the second CPU, thus preventing a potential crash.
QuickTime Music Synthesizer
Logic supports the QT Music Synthesizer of Quicktime version 6. In the environment connect a Multi Instrument object with the Quicktime Synth object to integrate it into Logic.
Software Instrument Changes, new Features
EVD6 Software Instrument Support
Logic 5.2 now supports the EVD6 Clavinet software instrument plug-in. This new instrument emulates the Hohner D6. As with other Emagic software instruments, you may test these instruments without limitations for a period of time. To do so, simply activate the demo period in the XSKey Authorization window.
Settings Handling
Using the same instrument channel it is now possible to change a software instrument to a multiple output version of the same instrument plug-in (or vice versa) without loosing any parameter edits in the process. Any parameter edits will be transferred.
ES2 Enhancements
The Pitch Bend maximum range has been extended to 36 semitones.
The ES2 now reacts to poly pressure (polyphonic aftertouch). If ”Touch” or ”Whl+To” is selected as a router Source or Via option, the sum of channel pressure and the note-specific poly pressure value is used.
There are two new router Sources/Vias available: NoteOnRandom1/2 (”RndNO1” and ”RndNO2”). NoteOnRandom1 is a random modulation value between -1.0 and 1.0 (same range as an LFO), that changes when a note is triggered or re-triggered (thus no value change when playing legato, while in legato mode). This (random) note-on modulation remains constant throughout the duration of the note until the next trigger.
NoteOnRandom2 behaves like NoteOnRandom1 with the exception that it glides to the new random value using the GlideTime (incl. modulation). It also differs from NoteOnRandom1 in that the (random modulation) value changes when playing legato, while in legato mode.
New router targets: OSCWavB/Osc1WavB/Osc2WavB/Osc3WavB offering oscillator specific modulations with changed modulation properties compared to Osc*Wav.
OscWaveB - behaves as Osc1WavB/Osc2WavB/Osc3WavB but applies to all oscillators (much like Pitch123).
DigiWaves: In previous ES2 versions there was a smooth transition if wavetable modulation is active for a DigiWave using Osc*Wav. Setting up the same modulation but using Osc*WavB will make the transition ”harder” as modulation values are increased.
FM (Osc1): The maximum FM intensity was quite limited. Using the new target Osc1WavB, rather than Osc1Wave, allows really extreme modulations.
EVP88 Enhancements
Now supports all song sample rates.
The ”Expression” MIDI controller now scales output level.
EXS24 Enhancements
Multiple Outputs
The EXS24 now offers 5 stereo pairs and 6 individual mono outputs. The first 10 EXS24 outputs are always configured as stereo pairs. Outputs 11 through 16 are mono outputs.
The “Main” output pair (1-2) of the EXS24 is assigned to its instrument channel. Additional outputs starting with output 3 are accessed via the new Aux channels. Please refer to the paragraph on Aux channels above.
Individual output assignments may be set for groups, or zones, within an EXS24 instrument. If zones are assigned to their individual outputs, any existing group outputs for the zones will be ignored. All output assignments are stored with the EXS24 Sampler Instrument.
If the EXS24 is inserted as a regular (not multi channel) mono or stereo plug-in, all multiple output assignments stored with a Sampler Instrument are automatically routed to the main stereo output pair, or mono output, respectively.
Instrument menu additions
Now two new entries appear in the Instrument menu: Next Instrument and Previous Instrument. Using the Previous and Next Instrument command you can sequentially step through existing Instruments in the menu.
Tip: Key commands can be assigned to perform this function. Options > Preferences > Key Commands ... > (search for “instrument”)
New Recycle Convert Options
There is a new Recycle convert function which allows to use 'old school' sample trigger techniques. Menu: Audio > EXS24 Instrument Editor > Instrument > Recycle Convert.
- Slice Loop and make new Instrument
- Slice Loop and add samples to current Instrument
The first option creates a new EXS24 sample instrument while the second option adds the zones with their samples to the currently active EXS24 sample instrument.
Function: Using the Recycle slices the EXS24 first renders one single audio file which equals the whole Recycle loop played back at the current Logic song tempo. Instead of importing and playing back a single discrete Recycle slice, each zone will play back the Recycle loop to its very end starting with the slice points original assigned to the respective zone. That means the lowest zone will play back the entire loop while the highest zone plays the last slice of the loop only. With this option the EXS24 allows for loop trigger techniques often used in 'old school' Drum'n'Bass tracks. This way the sample loop start point is determined by playing the respective notes on the keyboard.
Gigasampler File Format Import
The EXS24 can now import files stored in the Gigasampler format (.gig). This function is found in the 'Options' menu of the EXS24. Tip: In order to playback long audio files, the EXS24 Virtual Sample Memory extension should be installed.
Logic Control Changes
Note: The following button pushes refer to the Logic control surface.
Pressing SHIFT+MUTE button while EQ, SEND, PLUG-IN or Instrument button is activated, toggles Bypass of the current EQ, Send, Plug-In or Instrument. For Plug-ins this function works in Multi Channel and Channel Strip View for EQ, Send and Instruments this works only in Multi Channel View.
Track Channel Strip View:
SHIFT + MUTE 1 or SHIFT + MUTE 2 toggles track mute
SHIFT + MUTE 3 or SHIFT + V-Select 3 toggles instrument mute
SHIFT + MUTE 4 or SHIFT + V-Select 4 toggles plug-in insert 1 bypass
SHIFT + MUTE 5 or SHIFT + V-Select 5 toggles plug-in insert 2 bypass
SHIFT + MUTE 6 or SHIFT + V-Select 6 toggles Send 1 Mute
SHIFT + MUTE 7 or SHIFT + V-Select 7 toggles Send 2 Mute
SHIFT + MUTE 8 or SHIFT + V-Select 8 toggles Send 3 Mute
Pressing OPTION+SELECT 1 ... 8 creates a new track of the same type and number and switches to the Extended Track View.
SHIFT+OPTION+SELECT 1 ... 8 creates a new track of the same type and the following track number and switches to the Extended Track View.
CMD/ALT + F1 equals "Cut" key command
CMD/ALT + F2 equals "Copy" key command
CMD/ALT + F3 equals "Paste" key command
CMD/ALT + F4 equals "Clear" key command
CMD/ALT + F5 equals "Select All" key command
CMD/ALT + F6 equals "Select All Following" key command
CMD/ALT + F7 equals "Select Similar Objects" key command
CMD/ALT + F8 equals "Select Inside Locators" key command
Note: Logic will now create a separate ”Control Surface Plug-ins” folder inside the Logic folder for each new version number i.e. for Logic 5.2.0 it is now ”Control Surface Plug-ins 5.2.0”. The new naming convention allows to place different Logic software versions together in one folder while ensuring that each Logic version will load its compatible control surface plug-in. (Logic version 5.1.0 loads its Logic Control module from the original ”Control Surface Plug-ins” folder.)
Looks pretty good.......
I look forward to the clavinet!
Bedwyr are you sticking with logic for the time being or are your jumping ship to SX or Sonar?
Cheers
Stvy
Message 12/27 06-Aug-02 @ 01:06 PM - RE: Logic V5.20 announced
Stvy
Posts: 151
Link?: No link
File?: No file
Hi,
Just the rest of that info:
Notes:
In all Chord Symbol Language formats, the current format is also accepted for the input of new chords. The ”#”, ”b”, ”x” and ”bb” characters are also active in the German3 mode, allowing for quick entry. In the Roman format, the second root string character can be omitted, e.g. typing ”D7” or ”Do7” in roman mode will both result in ”Do 7”. Changing the Chord Language will automatically affect all chord symbols in the song. It is not possible to mix chord languages.
General Improvements & Changes
Song Settings and Preferences menu changes
Global program preferences and song specific settings have now been separated into two discrete areas. These are accessible via the Options > Song Settings and Options > Preferences menus. Previously these settings were located under the menu Options > Settings.
All items in the Song Settings submenu are saved with the song. All items in the Preferences submenu are saved with the Logic preferences in the system folder and globally affect all songs.
The Control Surfaces submenu is now found in Options > Preferences.
Metronome Settings dialog and the “Klopfgeist” Software Instrument
Options > Song Settings > Metronome Settings ... or a long click on the metronome icon in the transport window opens a new settings dialog window for the Metronome. This window combine all the settings of the MIDI Click environment object plus the metronome settings found in the song preference dialog 'Recording Options'. In addition the Metronome dialog features a virtual metronome instrument called "Klopfgeist". It can be used in addition or in place of the speaker click or the MIDI click and offers the same beat tapping functionality.
The “Tonality” parameter changes the sound of the virtual metronome from a short click to a pitched percussion sound similar to a Wood Block or Claves.
„Volume“ adjusts the overall sound level of the virtual click sound. „Output“ (assignment): Provided the audio hardware used by Logic offers more than 2 outputs this field allows the routing of the “Klopfgeist” metronome sound to a different set of hardware outputs.
Note: “Klopfgeist” is a software instrument found in the plug-in menu: Mono. For “Klopfgeist” to be available as a metronome sound source it needs to be inserted on instrument channel #64. Logic will automatically create an instrument channel #64 with an inserted “Klopfgeist” when necessary. Theoretically any other Emagic or VST2.0 instrument could be deployed as a metronome sound source using instrument channel 64.
Compared to the Metronome window the“Klopfgeist” plug-in window offers a few additional sound parameters. There is a parameter for tuning the instrument in “Semitones” and one for fine tuning (Detune) in cent. “Level Via Vel” determines the velocity sensitivity of Klopfgeist. “NoteOffDamp” controls the release time. The shortest release time is reached with “NoteOffDamp” at its maximum (1.00). “Klopfgeist” can operate as a monophonic (Mode: mono) or polyphonic 4-voice instrument (Mode: poly). The “Tonality” parameter is the same as in the Metronome dialog (see above).
Reference: A “Klopfgeist” is a little ghostly fellow, in this case German, who unlike his big brother “Poltergeist” restricts himself to producing knocking and tapping sounds. (Rest assured, audio instrument #64 is fitted with a Ghost Buster facility the button labeled “M”.)
Mute Tool for Matrix and Event List Editor
The Matrix and Event List editor now feature a Mute Tool allowing to mute specific notes in a sequence. With the Mute Tool clicking on a note will mute/un-mute it. Muted notes appear grayed out.
With the Mute Tool clicking on a piano key to the left of the Matrix Editor will mute/un-mute all notes of that particular pitch.
With the Mute Tool click and drag on the background to perform a rubber band selection of multiple notes. Clicking on one of the selected notes will mute/un-mute all selected notes.
Tip: Hold down SHIFT to create non-consecutive selections.
The command Edit > "Select Muted Objects" is now available in the Matrix and Event List editor. It allows the selection of all muted notes in a sequence.
Matrix Color Setup
The colors of the Matrix window grid, background, lines etc. can be adjusted for both the ”White”, and ”Black” Background views. This facility was added to enhance visibility in the Matrix window, particularly when working at high resolutions.
Select View > Matrix Color Setup to launch the window. Individual elements are listed, and can be adjusted with the mouse. Simply click on any element to activate/deactivate it, or to launch the system color palette.
Event Editor edit release velocity
Logic is now able to edit release velocity in the Event editor. To view release velocity data, enable the ”001011” view filter button to the left of the event list.
New MMC Options
If MIDI Machine Control is enabled, dragging the song position line will send ”MMC Locate” commands continuously, until the mouse button is released.
Several new MMC options have been included in the Options > Song settings > Synchronization Settings...> MIDI (panel).
These (self-explanatory ) options include:
MMC Output ID
Transmit MMC Locate commands when pressing Stop twice
Transmit MMC Locate commands when dragging objects (in sequencer stop mode)
Transmit MMC Record enables commands for audio tracks (receive as well)
Record Pre-roll (sec)
Options > Song Settings > Recording Options (or Metronome Settings). If 'Record Pre-roll' is disabled the count-in (in bars and beat values) set by the flip-menu is active. If Record Pre-Roll' is enabled an absolute record pre-roll can be entered in seconds instead.
Changed display of Pan and Mute
Compared to Version 5.1 and earlier Pan and Mute are displayed in an inverse orientation for HyperDraw and the small fader in the arrange window. Now PAN left is up and Pan right is down likewise un- muted is up and mute is down.
New Rex file import option
When importing audio files as Rex files “Render into single file” writes all ReCycle slices into a single audio file using the current Logic song tempo for the rendering process.
Multi processor compatibility
The audio engine will detect and automatically inform you about plug-ins that may have problems running on the second CPU, thus preventing a potential crash.
QuickTime Music Synthesizer
Logic supports the QT Music Synthesizer of Quicktime version 6. In the environment connect a Multi Instrument object with the Quicktime Synth object to integrate it into Logic.
Software Instrument Changes, new Features
EVD6 Software Instrument Support
Logic 5.2 now supports the EVD6 Clavinet software instrument plug-in. This new instrument emulates the Hohner D6. As with other Emagic software instruments, you may test these instruments without limitations for a period of time. To do so, simply activate the demo period in the XSKey Authorization window.
Settings Handling
Using the same instrument channel it is now possible to change a software instrument to a multiple output version of the same instrument plug-in (or vice versa) without loosing any parameter edits in the process. Any parameter edits will be transferred.
Just the rest of that info:
Notes:
In all Chord Symbol Language formats, the current format is also accepted for the input of new chords. The ”#”, ”b”, ”x” and ”bb” characters are also active in the German3 mode, allowing for quick entry. In the Roman format, the second root string character can be omitted, e.g. typing ”D7” or ”Do7” in roman mode will both result in ”Do 7”. Changing the Chord Language will automatically affect all chord symbols in the song. It is not possible to mix chord languages.
General Improvements & Changes
Song Settings and Preferences menu changes
Global program preferences and song specific settings have now been separated into two discrete areas. These are accessible via the Options > Song Settings and Options > Preferences menus. Previously these settings were located under the menu Options > Settings.
All items in the Song Settings submenu are saved with the song. All items in the Preferences submenu are saved with the Logic preferences in the system folder and globally affect all songs.
The Control Surfaces submenu is now found in Options > Preferences.
Metronome Settings dialog and the “Klopfgeist” Software Instrument
Options > Song Settings > Metronome Settings ... or a long click on the metronome icon in the transport window opens a new settings dialog window for the Metronome. This window combine all the settings of the MIDI Click environment object plus the metronome settings found in the song preference dialog 'Recording Options'. In addition the Metronome dialog features a virtual metronome instrument called "Klopfgeist". It can be used in addition or in place of the speaker click or the MIDI click and offers the same beat tapping functionality.
The “Tonality” parameter changes the sound of the virtual metronome from a short click to a pitched percussion sound similar to a Wood Block or Claves.
„Volume“ adjusts the overall sound level of the virtual click sound. „Output“ (assignment): Provided the audio hardware used by Logic offers more than 2 outputs this field allows the routing of the “Klopfgeist” metronome sound to a different set of hardware outputs.
Note: “Klopfgeist” is a software instrument found in the plug-in menu: Mono. For “Klopfgeist” to be available as a metronome sound source it needs to be inserted on instrument channel #64. Logic will automatically create an instrument channel #64 with an inserted “Klopfgeist” when necessary. Theoretically any other Emagic or VST2.0 instrument could be deployed as a metronome sound source using instrument channel 64.
Compared to the Metronome window the“Klopfgeist” plug-in window offers a few additional sound parameters. There is a parameter for tuning the instrument in “Semitones” and one for fine tuning (Detune) in cent. “Level Via Vel” determines the velocity sensitivity of Klopfgeist. “NoteOffDamp” controls the release time. The shortest release time is reached with “NoteOffDamp” at its maximum (1.00). “Klopfgeist” can operate as a monophonic (Mode: mono) or polyphonic 4-voice instrument (Mode: poly). The “Tonality” parameter is the same as in the Metronome dialog (see above).
Reference: A “Klopfgeist” is a little ghostly fellow, in this case German, who unlike his big brother “Poltergeist” restricts himself to producing knocking and tapping sounds. (Rest assured, audio instrument #64 is fitted with a Ghost Buster facility the button labeled “M”.)
Mute Tool for Matrix and Event List Editor
The Matrix and Event List editor now feature a Mute Tool allowing to mute specific notes in a sequence. With the Mute Tool clicking on a note will mute/un-mute it. Muted notes appear grayed out.
With the Mute Tool clicking on a piano key to the left of the Matrix Editor will mute/un-mute all notes of that particular pitch.
With the Mute Tool click and drag on the background to perform a rubber band selection of multiple notes. Clicking on one of the selected notes will mute/un-mute all selected notes.
Tip: Hold down SHIFT to create non-consecutive selections.
The command Edit > "Select Muted Objects" is now available in the Matrix and Event List editor. It allows the selection of all muted notes in a sequence.
Matrix Color Setup
The colors of the Matrix window grid, background, lines etc. can be adjusted for both the ”White”, and ”Black” Background views. This facility was added to enhance visibility in the Matrix window, particularly when working at high resolutions.
Select View > Matrix Color Setup to launch the window. Individual elements are listed, and can be adjusted with the mouse. Simply click on any element to activate/deactivate it, or to launch the system color palette.
Event Editor edit release velocity
Logic is now able to edit release velocity in the Event editor. To view release velocity data, enable the ”001011” view filter button to the left of the event list.
New MMC Options
If MIDI Machine Control is enabled, dragging the song position line will send ”MMC Locate” commands continuously, until the mouse button is released.
Several new MMC options have been included in the Options > Song settings > Synchronization Settings...> MIDI (panel).
These (self-explanatory ) options include:
MMC Output ID
Transmit MMC Locate commands when pressing Stop twice
Transmit MMC Locate commands when dragging objects (in sequencer stop mode)
Transmit MMC Record enables commands for audio tracks (receive as well)
Record Pre-roll (sec)
Options > Song Settings > Recording Options (or Metronome Settings). If 'Record Pre-roll' is disabled the count-in (in bars and beat values) set by the flip-menu is active. If Record Pre-Roll' is enabled an absolute record pre-roll can be entered in seconds instead.
Changed display of Pan and Mute
Compared to Version 5.1 and earlier Pan and Mute are displayed in an inverse orientation for HyperDraw and the small fader in the arrange window. Now PAN left is up and Pan right is down likewise un- muted is up and mute is down.
New Rex file import option
When importing audio files as Rex files “Render into single file” writes all ReCycle slices into a single audio file using the current Logic song tempo for the rendering process.
Multi processor compatibility
The audio engine will detect and automatically inform you about plug-ins that may have problems running on the second CPU, thus preventing a potential crash.
QuickTime Music Synthesizer
Logic supports the QT Music Synthesizer of Quicktime version 6. In the environment connect a Multi Instrument object with the Quicktime Synth object to integrate it into Logic.
Software Instrument Changes, new Features
EVD6 Software Instrument Support
Logic 5.2 now supports the EVD6 Clavinet software instrument plug-in. This new instrument emulates the Hohner D6. As with other Emagic software instruments, you may test these instruments without limitations for a period of time. To do so, simply activate the demo period in the XSKey Authorization window.
Settings Handling
Using the same instrument channel it is now possible to change a software instrument to a multiple output version of the same instrument plug-in (or vice versa) without loosing any parameter edits in the process. Any parameter edits will be transferred.
Message 13/27 06-Aug-02 @ 01:08 PM - RE: Logic V5.20 announced
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ES2 Enhancements
The Pitch Bend maximum range has been extended to 36 semitones.
The ES2 now reacts to poly pressure (polyphonic aftertouch). If ”Touch” or ”Whl+To” is selected as a router Source or Via option, the sum of channel pressure and the note-specific poly pressure value is used.
There are two new router Sources/Vias available: NoteOnRandom1/2 (”RndNO1” and ”RndNO2”). NoteOnRandom1 is a random modulation value between -1.0 and 1.0 (same range as an LFO), that changes when a note is triggered or re-triggered (thus no value change when playing legato, while in legato mode). This (random) note-on modulation remains constant throughout the duration of the note until the next trigger.
NoteOnRandom2 behaves like NoteOnRandom1 with the exception that it glides to the new random value using the GlideTime (incl. modulation). It also differs from NoteOnRandom1 in that the (random modulation) value changes when playing legato, while in legato mode.
New router targets: OSCWavB/Osc1WavB/Osc2WavB/Osc3WavB offering oscillator specific modulations with changed modulation properties compared to Osc*Wav.
OscWaveB - behaves as Osc1WavB/Osc2WavB/Osc3WavB but applies to all oscillators (much like Pitch123).
DigiWaves: In previous ES2 versions there was a smooth transition if wavetable modulation is active for a DigiWave using Osc*Wav. Setting up the same modulation but using Osc*WavB will make the transition ”harder” as modulation values are increased.
FM (Osc1): The maximum FM intensity was quite limited. Using the new target Osc1WavB, rather than Osc1Wave, allows really extreme modulations.
EVP88 Enhancements
Now supports all song sample rates.
The ”Expression” MIDI controller now scales output level.
EXS24 Enhancements
Multiple Outputs
The EXS24 now offers 5 stereo pairs and 6 individual mono outputs. The first 10 EXS24 outputs are always configured as stereo pairs. Outputs 11 through 16 are mono outputs.
The “Main” output pair (1-2) of the EXS24 is assigned to its instrument channel. Additional outputs starting with output 3 are accessed via the new Aux channels. Please refer to the paragraph on Aux channels above.
Individual output assignments may be set for groups, or zones, within an EXS24 instrument. If zones are assigned to their individual outputs, any existing group outputs for the zones will be ignored. All output assignments are stored with the EXS24 Sampler Instrument.
If the EXS24 is inserted as a regular (not multi channel) mono or stereo plug-in, all multiple output assignments stored with a Sampler Instrument are automatically routed to the main stereo output pair, or mono output, respectively.
Instrument menu additions
Now two new entries appear in the Instrument menu: Next Instrument and Previous Instrument. Using the Previous and Next Instrument command you can sequentially step through existing Instruments in the menu.
Tip: Key commands can be assigned to perform this function. Options > Preferences > Key Commands ... > (search for “instrument”)
New Recycle Convert Options
There is a new Recycle convert function which allows to use 'old school' sample trigger techniques. Menu: Audio > EXS24 Instrument Editor > Instrument > Recycle Convert.
- Slice Loop and make new Instrument
- Slice Loop and add samples to current Instrument
The first option creates a new EXS24 sample instrument while the second option adds the zones with their samples to the currently active EXS24 sample instrument.
Function: Using the Recycle slices the EXS24 first renders one single audio file which equals the whole Recycle loop played back at the current Logic song tempo. Instead of importing and playing back a single discrete Recycle slice, each zone will play back the Recycle loop to its very end starting with the slice points original assigned to the respective zone. That means the lowest zone will play back the entire loop while the highest zone plays the last slice of the loop only. With this option the EXS24 allows for loop trigger techniques often used in 'old school' Drum'n'Bass tracks. This way the sample loop start point is determined by playing the respective notes on the keyboard.
Gigasampler File Format Import
The EXS24 can now import files stored in the Gigasampler format (.gig). This function is found in the 'Options' menu of the EXS24. Tip: In order to playback long audio files, the EXS24 Virtual Sample Memory extension should be installed.
Logic Control Changes
Note: The following button pushes refer to the Logic control surface.
Pressing SHIFT+MUTE button while EQ, SEND, PLUG-IN or Instrument button is activated, toggles Bypass of the current EQ, Send, Plug-In or Instrument. For Plug-ins this function works in Multi Channel and Channel Strip View for EQ, Send and Instruments this works only in Multi Channel View.
Track Channel Strip View:
SHIFT + MUTE 1 or SHIFT + MUTE 2 toggles track mute
SHIFT + MUTE 3 or SHIFT + V-Select 3 toggles instrument mute
SHIFT + MUTE 4 or SHIFT + V-Select 4 toggles plug-in insert 1 bypass
SHIFT + MUTE 5 or SHIFT + V-Select 5 toggles plug-in insert 2 bypass
SHIFT + MUTE 6 or SHIFT + V-Select 6 toggles Send 1 Mute
SHIFT + MUTE 7 or SHIFT + V-Select 7 toggles Send 2 Mute
SHIFT + MUTE 8 or SHIFT + V-Select 8 toggles Send 3 Mute
Pressing OPTION+SELECT 1 ... 8 creates a new track of the same type and number and switches to the Extended Track View.
SHIFT+OPTION+SELECT 1 ... 8 creates a new track of the same type and the following track number and switches to the Extended Track View.
CMD/ALT + F1 equals "Cut" key command
CMD/ALT + F2 equals "Copy" key command
CMD/ALT + F3 equals "Paste" key command
CMD/ALT + F4 equals "Clear" key command
CMD/ALT + F5 equals "Select All" key command
CMD/ALT + F6 equals "Select All Following" key command
CMD/ALT + F7 equals "Select Similar Objects" key command
CMD/ALT + F8 equals "Select Inside Locators" key command
Note: Logic will now create a separate ”Control Surface Plug-ins” folder inside the Logic folder for each new version number i.e. for Logic 5.2.0 it is now ”Control Surface Plug-ins 5.2.0”. The new naming convention allows to place different Logic software versions together in one folder while ensuring that each Logic version will load its compatible control surface plug-in. (Logic version 5.1.0 loads its Logic Control module from the original ”Control Surface Plug-ins” folder.)
Looks pretty good.......
I look forward to the clavinet!
Bedwyr are you sticking with logic for the time being or are your jumping ship to SX or Sonar?
Cheers
Stvy
The Pitch Bend maximum range has been extended to 36 semitones.
The ES2 now reacts to poly pressure (polyphonic aftertouch). If ”Touch” or ”Whl+To” is selected as a router Source or Via option, the sum of channel pressure and the note-specific poly pressure value is used.
There are two new router Sources/Vias available: NoteOnRandom1/2 (”RndNO1” and ”RndNO2”). NoteOnRandom1 is a random modulation value between -1.0 and 1.0 (same range as an LFO), that changes when a note is triggered or re-triggered (thus no value change when playing legato, while in legato mode). This (random) note-on modulation remains constant throughout the duration of the note until the next trigger.
NoteOnRandom2 behaves like NoteOnRandom1 with the exception that it glides to the new random value using the GlideTime (incl. modulation). It also differs from NoteOnRandom1 in that the (random modulation) value changes when playing legato, while in legato mode.
New router targets: OSCWavB/Osc1WavB/Osc2WavB/Osc3WavB offering oscillator specific modulations with changed modulation properties compared to Osc*Wav.
OscWaveB - behaves as Osc1WavB/Osc2WavB/Osc3WavB but applies to all oscillators (much like Pitch123).
DigiWaves: In previous ES2 versions there was a smooth transition if wavetable modulation is active for a DigiWave using Osc*Wav. Setting up the same modulation but using Osc*WavB will make the transition ”harder” as modulation values are increased.
FM (Osc1): The maximum FM intensity was quite limited. Using the new target Osc1WavB, rather than Osc1Wave, allows really extreme modulations.
EVP88 Enhancements
Now supports all song sample rates.
The ”Expression” MIDI controller now scales output level.
EXS24 Enhancements
Multiple Outputs
The EXS24 now offers 5 stereo pairs and 6 individual mono outputs. The first 10 EXS24 outputs are always configured as stereo pairs. Outputs 11 through 16 are mono outputs.
The “Main” output pair (1-2) of the EXS24 is assigned to its instrument channel. Additional outputs starting with output 3 are accessed via the new Aux channels. Please refer to the paragraph on Aux channels above.
Individual output assignments may be set for groups, or zones, within an EXS24 instrument. If zones are assigned to their individual outputs, any existing group outputs for the zones will be ignored. All output assignments are stored with the EXS24 Sampler Instrument.
If the EXS24 is inserted as a regular (not multi channel) mono or stereo plug-in, all multiple output assignments stored with a Sampler Instrument are automatically routed to the main stereo output pair, or mono output, respectively.
Instrument menu additions
Now two new entries appear in the Instrument menu: Next Instrument and Previous Instrument. Using the Previous and Next Instrument command you can sequentially step through existing Instruments in the menu.
Tip: Key commands can be assigned to perform this function. Options > Preferences > Key Commands ... > (search for “instrument”)
New Recycle Convert Options
There is a new Recycle convert function which allows to use 'old school' sample trigger techniques. Menu: Audio > EXS24 Instrument Editor > Instrument > Recycle Convert.
- Slice Loop and make new Instrument
- Slice Loop and add samples to current Instrument
The first option creates a new EXS24 sample instrument while the second option adds the zones with their samples to the currently active EXS24 sample instrument.
Function: Using the Recycle slices the EXS24 first renders one single audio file which equals the whole Recycle loop played back at the current Logic song tempo. Instead of importing and playing back a single discrete Recycle slice, each zone will play back the Recycle loop to its very end starting with the slice points original assigned to the respective zone. That means the lowest zone will play back the entire loop while the highest zone plays the last slice of the loop only. With this option the EXS24 allows for loop trigger techniques often used in 'old school' Drum'n'Bass tracks. This way the sample loop start point is determined by playing the respective notes on the keyboard.
Gigasampler File Format Import
The EXS24 can now import files stored in the Gigasampler format (.gig). This function is found in the 'Options' menu of the EXS24. Tip: In order to playback long audio files, the EXS24 Virtual Sample Memory extension should be installed.
Logic Control Changes
Note: The following button pushes refer to the Logic control surface.
Pressing SHIFT+MUTE button while EQ, SEND, PLUG-IN or Instrument button is activated, toggles Bypass of the current EQ, Send, Plug-In or Instrument. For Plug-ins this function works in Multi Channel and Channel Strip View for EQ, Send and Instruments this works only in Multi Channel View.
Track Channel Strip View:
SHIFT + MUTE 1 or SHIFT + MUTE 2 toggles track mute
SHIFT + MUTE 3 or SHIFT + V-Select 3 toggles instrument mute
SHIFT + MUTE 4 or SHIFT + V-Select 4 toggles plug-in insert 1 bypass
SHIFT + MUTE 5 or SHIFT + V-Select 5 toggles plug-in insert 2 bypass
SHIFT + MUTE 6 or SHIFT + V-Select 6 toggles Send 1 Mute
SHIFT + MUTE 7 or SHIFT + V-Select 7 toggles Send 2 Mute
SHIFT + MUTE 8 or SHIFT + V-Select 8 toggles Send 3 Mute
Pressing OPTION+SELECT 1 ... 8 creates a new track of the same type and number and switches to the Extended Track View.
SHIFT+OPTION+SELECT 1 ... 8 creates a new track of the same type and the following track number and switches to the Extended Track View.
CMD/ALT + F1 equals "Cut" key command
CMD/ALT + F2 equals "Copy" key command
CMD/ALT + F3 equals "Paste" key command
CMD/ALT + F4 equals "Clear" key command
CMD/ALT + F5 equals "Select All" key command
CMD/ALT + F6 equals "Select All Following" key command
CMD/ALT + F7 equals "Select Similar Objects" key command
CMD/ALT + F8 equals "Select Inside Locators" key command
Note: Logic will now create a separate ”Control Surface Plug-ins” folder inside the Logic folder for each new version number i.e. for Logic 5.2.0 it is now ”Control Surface Plug-ins 5.2.0”. The new naming convention allows to place different Logic software versions together in one folder while ensuring that each Logic version will load its compatible control surface plug-in. (Logic version 5.1.0 loads its Logic Control module from the original ”Control Surface Plug-ins” folder.)
Looks pretty good.......
I look forward to the clavinet!
Bedwyr are you sticking with logic for the time being or are your jumping ship to SX or Sonar?
Cheers
Stvy
Message 14/27 06-Aug-02 @ 01:10 PM - RE: Logic V5.20 announced
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OOPs sorry for the mulit posts!
stvy
stvy
Message 15/27 06-Aug-02 @ 02:01 PM - RE: Logic V5.20 announced
you can delete them if you press the "edit" button. might be a good idea even.
Message 16/27 06-Aug-02 @ 02:18 PM - RE: Logic V5.20 announced
hehe, i haven't read all that yet, but i'm sticking with logic for the forseeable future, i just think it's more than enough, even if there's a new vst standard that comes out you'll still have a wealth of plugins and instruments available.
i'll just keep upgrading my computer until i've got 2 big thin screens, loads of memory and a super fast processor, logic isn't and won't be a problem for a long while.
i just wish someone (waves) would do vst or dx versions of all the old compressors and eq, like pro tools or that uad1 card.
i'll just keep upgrading my computer until i've got 2 big thin screens, loads of memory and a super fast processor, logic isn't and won't be a problem for a long while.
i just wish someone (waves) would do vst or dx versions of all the old compressors and eq, like pro tools or that uad1 card.
Message 17/27 06-Aug-02 @ 02:27 PM - RE: Logic V5.20 announced
well i just skimmed through and someone please tell me what more could you want? (if it all works of course)
sx is still ugly as hell and i only ever liked the midi side of cubase, when i got a computer that could handle audio, i went for logic. sonar is ugly too, i just don't want to spend my day looking at shit on screen.
sx is still ugly as hell and i only ever liked the midi side of cubase, when i got a computer that could handle audio, i went for logic. sonar is ugly too, i just don't want to spend my day looking at shit on screen.
Message 18/27 06-Aug-02 @ 05:07 PM - RE: Logic V5.20 announced
I can tell you one thing (dunno if it IS in that list, I didn't see it)
I wanted Logic to sort out it's BOUNCE function so like vst it doesnt do it in realtime. The whole point of rendering down is that it should happen faster than playback speed, AND when a song reaches max-out for actual asio audio playback, rendering should BYPASS the asio driver and process the render as a computation without beoing heard... as it is now, rendering doesnt allow you to make use of the PC's computational power as it is STILL tied to the bloody audio OUT driver
*sigh*
pointless, and i can't see why they do it like that.
Is that to change?.. I hope so!
I wanted Logic to sort out it's BOUNCE function so like vst it doesnt do it in realtime. The whole point of rendering down is that it should happen faster than playback speed, AND when a song reaches max-out for actual asio audio playback, rendering should BYPASS the asio driver and process the render as a computation without beoing heard... as it is now, rendering doesnt allow you to make use of the PC's computational power as it is STILL tied to the bloody audio OUT driver
*sigh*
pointless, and i can't see why they do it like that.
Is that to change?.. I hope so!
Message 19/27 06-Aug-02 @ 05:29 PM - RE: Logic V5.20 announced
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Hi,
Just seen that the v5.2 updater is availble at last!
Whilst I was waiting for the download I read through the old pdf emagic posted regarding v5 when it was supposed to be released in Sept 2001. Looks like all the features in v5.2 were just about planned for the original initial v5.0 release. Only 1 year late then EMagic!
This cheers me up at least, originaly I bought my v5 upgrade to get those features advertised on that original pdf. Now we are about to get them.
Unfortunately no news of an improved rewire implementation. However like I said I'm pretty much happy about the cost of my upgrade to v5 and what I'm getting in v5.2.
K - am scanning through looking for some info on the bounce but I can't see anything although there is a feature to bounce a track down destructively with all the fx etc at a faster speed.
Although.... If v5.3 comes out with something really special (can't think of what though, maybe decent audio editing, rewire v2 etc... Maybe I will get myself a 2nd hand mac....
Cheers
Steve
Just seen that the v5.2 updater is availble at last!
Whilst I was waiting for the download I read through the old pdf emagic posted regarding v5 when it was supposed to be released in Sept 2001. Looks like all the features in v5.2 were just about planned for the original initial v5.0 release. Only 1 year late then EMagic!
This cheers me up at least, originaly I bought my v5 upgrade to get those features advertised on that original pdf. Now we are about to get them.
Unfortunately no news of an improved rewire implementation. However like I said I'm pretty much happy about the cost of my upgrade to v5 and what I'm getting in v5.2.
K - am scanning through looking for some info on the bounce but I can't see anything although there is a feature to bounce a track down destructively with all the fx etc at a faster speed.
Although.... If v5.3 comes out with something really special (can't think of what though, maybe decent audio editing, rewire v2 etc... Maybe I will get myself a 2nd hand mac....
Cheers
Steve
Message 20/27 06-Aug-02 @ 05:41 PM Edit: 06-Aug-02 | 05:45 PM - RE: Logic V5.20 announced
yeah i want it to bounce to the next available audio track as well, fat chance.
but i think this is what k is on about stvy -
"although there is a feature to bounce a track down destructively with all the fx etc at a faster speed."
that's just great - i absolutely hate bouncing down the final stereo, for fuck's sake i don't want to listen to the bastard thing AGAIN!
no mention of the b3 vsti tho? still, native have that one covered.
but i think this is what k is on about stvy -
"although there is a feature to bounce a track down destructively with all the fx etc at a faster speed."
that's just great - i absolutely hate bouncing down the final stereo, for fuck's sake i don't want to listen to the bastard thing AGAIN!
no mention of the b3 vsti tho? still, native have that one covered.
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