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Original Message 1/29             17-Sep-01  @  05:43 PM   -   what's people's drive arrangements?

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just interested - what drives do you have, how are they configured & formatted and where is your swapfile residing etc..?

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 2/29             24-Sep-01  @  11:27 AM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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30 gb ibm deskstar, partitioned 5gb for software, 25 for audio/video/rubbish

btw does anyone now a fast defrag thingy, i'm v.bored waiting for
the microsoft one to finish, although the little flashing squares
are qutie hypnotic ...



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Message 3/29             24-Sep-01  @  12:34 PM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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I just stick it all anywhere nowadays, I have a 2 gig boot and apps partition and the rest (8 gig) is games/data/audio. I also have a 1.3gig backup drive.

Never noticed any real difference in performance to when audio had it's own drive.

With the amount of tracks you can get running these days who cares about tweaks to get 2 extra channels?



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Message 4/29             25-Sep-01  @  06:53 AM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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I just have a single 13 gig on a 500mhz Pentium, I don't know what I'd do if it crashed. I'm pushing 640mb RAM though, and I use every byte  

I'm thinking about getting a second drive, a fast one good for recording...any suggestions?



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Message 5/29             25-Sep-01  @  09:22 PM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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C -> Windows 98 and Win2k installs, swap file. 6GB, FAT32

D -> Win2k "work" partition for programming/database work and stuff like that.. 2GB, NTFS.. I work for a public university and I sometimes use the home machine for work.. I need the security and sometimes the file compression capabilities of NTFS for this stuff.

E -> Audio only. I have a samples folder for samples and then let Cakewalk have the rest of it. I think it's 8GB, and it's formatted FAT32 with the z:64 option.

-Craig



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Message 6/29             25-Sep-01  @  09:26 PM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

99devils

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Oh, physically it's all one drive. I'm going to be adding a new drive soon, 40-80GB worth.. That'll be all audio, and then I'll split the current drive between secure (NTFS) and OS partitions, with a seperate partition for swap space.

I picked up a degree of anal-retentiveness wile learning to set up UNIX boxes   I almost always put swap and temp space in seperate partitions so that they don't run the OS partition out of space.. This is another good reason to have audio on a different partition than the OS.. If you have them seperate and your audio app runs your machine out of space, it hasn't crippled the OS. And if Windows gets greedy while managing swap space, it can't take more than the partition.

My 2 cents anyways..

-Craig



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Message 7/29             27-Sep-01  @  12:27 AM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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Isn't it good to set swap space to a fixed amount, like one to two times your ram? just curious.

c: OS & programs (& swapfile) -- fat32

d: cakewalk data, samples -- fat32

I haven't set up a partition for the swap file. Rather I just set the file to a fixed amount, since a few sites recommend that (including the PRO REC site). But obviously, I'm just following advice w/ blind ignorance of the real result.

I can't say much about the performance of my system just yet...we wait until after actuarial exam.



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Message 8/29             27-Sep-01  @  05:30 AM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

damballah

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2 physical drives, C: is 8 gig for boot and apps, D: is a 30 GB ATA 100 maxtor mostly for audio (plus a 1 gig scsi jaz w some 3 or 4 carts laying around)



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Message 9/29             27-Sep-01  @  07:07 AM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

panama

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1 - 8 gig IBM 7200 SCSI, Mac os standard with
bios  

2 - 30 gig Western Dig. Ultra ATA, mac format



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Message 10/29             27-Sep-01  @  03:43 PM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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2 IBM deskstar's (7200 rpm's, 2 mb cache, ata 100) in a raid array (striping). what most you guys might not know is that if you use mirroring (the raid configuration where one disc records everything that is written to the other, so if one crashes, you are still o.k.) your read speeds are almost doubled, because it reads from both drives at once.. but there is a VERY slight write hit. now, the raid config i am using (claled striping) writes chucks of data to one drive, than the other, and so on, so when the computer needs the file, it reads from both disks simultaneously, and it can write to both simul. Thats what gives me the famed 56 mb/sec SUSTAINED input and output. :-) oh yea, but i rarely use aduio tracks, so its all for naught anyway (not counting all the vid work i do)

so yea, 80 gigs of storage (4 gigs are used for file system info, and the fact that 40 gigs does not equal 40 billion bytes...), 512 mb ddr ram (running at cas 2 latency)

aaron



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Message 11/29             27-Sep-01  @  05:35 PM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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so aaron, is that an onboard controller?.. or an added-in controller such as promise etc? - what's the mo'board if it is inbuilt?

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 12/29             27-Sep-01  @  09:15 PM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

99devils

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Most 7200 RPM ATA-100 disks can stream 70 tracks of audio no problem. RAID really isn't necessary.

-Craig



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Message 13/29             27-Sep-01  @  09:40 PM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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seems he's not happy with just a little overkill, he wants the most overkill



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Message 14/29             27-Sep-01  @  11:29 PM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

Sensoniq

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No but seriously, what's our drive arrangements? Well I carpool to school every morning with a few friends...



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Message 15/29             16-Dec-01  @  12:17 AM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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Hello- doing a bit of research here and so I pulled this old thread up.

So everyone's happy with their ata100 drives? No need for SCSI drives for audio anymore?

When I build my new DAW I don't want any regrets- I want a big, fast, dedicated drive for audio- absolutely no fucking around...

Any opinions on such a over-discussed topic??



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Message 16/29             16-Dec-01  @  12:19 AM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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youll be fine with IDE. just make sure theyre 7200rpm or 10k if you wanna splurge.



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Message 17/29             16-Dec-01  @  04:25 AM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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oh goody! Now I can go research SOUNDCARDS!

Thanks man.



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Message 18/29             16-Dec-01  @  05:56 AM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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FYI, if anyone gives a shit..

My current drive arrangement, now that I'm thoroughly happy with my box, is:

c: 8GB - OS, program installs, random shit
d: 11.1GB - Sonar data

It's an IBM ATA33 7200RPM drive, and I can run 48 tracks of audio on it with the Sonar disk meter at about 25%.

-Craig



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Message 19/29             16-Dec-01  @  08:37 PM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

brad

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uh, you mean ata133 right?

wow, you're styling w/ that drive! I'll keep IBMs in mind...actually I have an IBM in this boxw, but it's udma66.

Lot's of ppl., including the prorec R.Y.O. guy like the MAxtor Diamondback plus but I've had Maxtors go south on me after only a year.



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Message 20/29             16-Dec-01  @  11:28 PM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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eh?.. ata33?.. are you sure?... 48 tracks!! - whats the rest of the box craig? -

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 21/29             17-Dec-01  @  09:17 PM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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I use an ata100 7200 and at 48 tracks, i am doing 25%. I do use many long clips though. If your clips are short they do lighten the disk load.



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Message 22/29             17-Dec-01  @  09:17 PM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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I use an ata100 7200 and at 48 tracks, i am doing 25%. I do use many long clips though. If your clips are short they do lighten the disk load.



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Message 23/29             18-Dec-01  @  08:19 PM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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all I can say is ata100 makes a hell of a difference!.. gonna build a 266 board pc after christmas, crikey they must be smoking!!

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 24/29             20-Dec-01  @  02:06 AM     Edit: 20-Dec-01  |  02:08 AM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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i got one server case with 3 older ata33 drives, scsi via a 2940 u/w wired to a jaz external. that's networked to a twin drive ata66 box with two 20gb drives and a cd burner (tdk) - There's an NT4 server box also but it's down right now with a sick power supply.

The duron 700 is ata100 drive & 133 bus/ram... single 20gb drive, but it's being updated with a cd burner at christmas.

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 25/29             20-Dec-01  @  07:31 PM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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K, no you guys all read that right the first time. it's an ATA-33 (not 133) drive. Formatted with 64k clusters in two partitions. The other day I was working on a 50 track mix with about 12 plugins of various types. 40% CPU, 35% disk.

It's a bread and butter Gateway Select 700mhz Athlon with 1/2GB of RAM.

I shit you not  

-Craig



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Message 26/29             20-Dec-01  @  08:20 PM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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I'm also talking about 16-bit, 44.1khz mono tracks! If you're thinking I'm getting 48 stereo tracks of 24-bit, 96khz audio then that would be pretty unbelievable  

-Craig



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Message 27/29             21-Dec-01  @  02:57 AM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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seriously, ignore the ata numbers... drive rpm and actual transfer rates are the only things that really matter. even the fastest drives can barely get sustained transfers above 33 M/s.

these days even a cheap ass $100 staples special 5400 rpm ata 33 drive will wipe the pants off old scsi drives.

of course i have about double that with ide raid - never actually tried to max out my tracks but i'll go give it a whirl.



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Message 28/29             21-Dec-01  @  03:10 AM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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hmm.. big clusters eh.. you used the z/ switch then?

so have to tried setting the ram chunksize the same for your swapfile in your system.ini file? - i'd be interested if it changes anything.

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 29/29             21-Dec-01  @  04:12 PM   -   RE: what's people's drive arrangements?

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I haven't tried that.. I'm honestly not even sure where to set that under XP  

-Craig



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