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Original Message 1/38             04-Feb-02  @  03:51 AM   -   Logic situation

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Logic will be running for awhile then I'll hit play and the midi sequence won't work. And when I hit a key on the H/W keyboard it doest register in logic...THEN I'll go to close logic and the computer freezes. Anyone know how to fix this? seems like with every solution a new problem presents its self...



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Message 2/38             04-Feb-02  @  03:54 AM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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For the thread topic I ment "crashing"...but then again, I dont know if that's acually what I should call it. Thanks for the help 



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Message 3/38             04-Feb-02  @  10:52 AM     Edit: 04-Feb-02  |  10:52 AM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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? cracked copy? what's your pc spec? and what other programs are running?



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Message 4/38             04-Feb-02  @  05:43 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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Is a crack. I'm using a Sony Vaio PIII 800. It has 383 ram. Win98. I'm not running any other programs. I have very few programs installed...Logic and control s/w for the soundcard. All clean installs. It IS a crack, I know, but this problem was not occurring before I nuked the system. The specs are more then enough. And with clean installs, I have to wonder if it's a setting someware.



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Message 5/38             04-Feb-02  @  07:09 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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but, if you did a clean install, did you TOTALY clean out the old version first?

also is your soundcard app correctly set for asio driver select - AND - in Logic's audio setup, is it all selected right for asio @ 44.1 to match your soundcard applet settings? (assuming that's how your soundcard is set - what soundcard is it?



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Message 6/38             04-Feb-02  @  07:11 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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and what was the 'nuked' you talk about??... and how did you fix the 'nuked'... IN DETAIL please.



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Message 7/38             04-Feb-02  @  09:57 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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The 'nuke' I spoke of is refering to reformating the harddrive(e.g. nuke, wipe out, the alternative to waving a magnet over the harddrive). The sound card I'm using is a motu 2408 mkII. It's setup for asio and so is logic...there both set at 48khz. It doest seem like it has to do with the sound card...maybe though. Hey jk, what install are you refering to, Logic? I just installed it from the cd. Anything from before was erased when I reformatted. I did load a Logic song that I had saved from before I wiped out the system.



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Message 8/38             04-Feb-02  @  10:52 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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pffft... i dont believe it! you splash out on a 2408 and then you use cracked version of logic... silly...



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Message 9/38             05-Feb-02  @  06:34 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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I'm thinking of buying a copy...but do you think the problem is becouse is a crack. I mean if I spent all the money for a copy, is it going to fix the problem?...I thought some other problems were do to the cracked aspect of it but it turned out to be a setting or an out dated driver, ect, ect...



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Message 10/38             05-Feb-02  @  07:00 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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sounds like the bus is locking up (the freeze) - and if you set the asio driver to 44.1 ??... what happens?...



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Message 11/38             05-Feb-02  @  07:04 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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oh... and WHERE in Logic did you select the asio driver?... Logic has 2 audio driver panels... the first one should be TOTALY blank & un-used with everything deticked....... The asio driver should be selected in AUDIO-DRIVER 2 panel... your audio card applet should be set to 44.1 clock, and the Logic 'Audio Device Setup' should have the same asio 44.1 selected in the middle of the grey panel (on the texct columns) and the 'EASI MME ADAPTER' should have the correct asio driver/s selected for your required in's & out's you want to use.



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Message 12/38             06-Feb-02  @  12:57 PM     Edit: 06-Feb-02  |  12:59 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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It also sounds like you might have a virtual MIDI engine problem. What MIDI Interface are you using for your keyboard? Double check that your Physical Input object has registered your MIDI interface in the Environment correctly (it should display the number of I/Os for your MIDI device), if not, then that could be your problem.

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Message 13/38             06-Feb-02  @  08:00 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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Kilo, everything is setup how you said although I dont know what the 'EASI MME ADAPTER" is, or where to find it. The only place that Ive seen it is on the first audio driver page... when I select PC AV I can select EASI MME as a driver. Please explain this part, thanks. As for MIDI, I'm using a unitor8 mkII. It does appear in the environment.



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Message 14/38             06-Feb-02  @  11:49 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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"sounds like the bus is locking up"...Whats the bus, and how would I go about fixing it? The 'freezing up' part seems strange to me...



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Message 15/38             07-Feb-02  @  12:20 AM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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i think we need more info. what midi interface are you using? usb? midiman 2x2? (my pet hate)

does this happen when you're not using midi, i.e. audio only? is the midi you're talking about vst instruments or actuall midi modules?

and what do you mean 'the midi sequence won't work'? does the sound crackle or just no sound?



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Message 16/38             07-Feb-02  @  01:01 AM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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I'm using a Unitor8 mkII with usb. I'm using a Z1. I have the local turned off on the Z1 so when I play it it sends that information to the Unitor8 then into Logic. Logic accepts it and sends it back to the Z1 and The Z1 plays... Now, the situation at hand is, I have a midi sequence recorded on an instument track I made for the Z1. Logic sends that midi sequence to the Unitor8 out which goes to the in on the Z1. The audio from the Z1 goes into the 2408. Then to an audio object. The audio then goes to the master fader in Logic. Then to the out on the 2408 where I monitor from... Well, I'll it stop in Logic and leave it for about 10/15 min. then when I hit play it starts playing through the song but it doesnt send the midi sequence. Also, at that point, I'll hit a key on the Z1 and the midi activity light for the midi input on the Unitor will light but it wont register in Logic there for Logic doesnt send the midi the the Z1...THEN, I'll try to close Logic and the computer freezes... ctrl+alt+delete time



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Message 17/38             07-Feb-02  @  07:26 AM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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"sounds like the bus is locking up"... what bus do you mean?



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Message 18/38             07-Feb-02  @  07:33 PM     Edit: 07-Feb-02  |  07:37 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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wait up.... I see what the problem is (after checking the card spec).... ok.. you have the motu 2408 mkII rack, with the The PCI-324 card yes!!??

well you do NOT select the PCAV checkbox.. that is ONLY for generic winblows MME cards.... select the ASIO driver (NOT asio MME) here (see image).... the PCAV is NOT ticked on the 'audio driver' device panel - leave that panel with EVERYTHING un-checked... set your ASIO driver on the 'audio driver 2' panel.

The CONTROL PANEL button next to the asiodriver select list should open your MOTU settings applet where you assign sample-rate & sample frequency etc....

try that!

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 19/38             07-Feb-02  @  07:53 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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ya bro, I had/have everything unchecked except for the asio. The control panel DOES open the motu settings. I have the motu as the master clock. It crazing becouse I'll select a different sample rate in the dropdown menu in Logic and when I open the control panel from the preference window the motu changes to that sample rate... seems like Logic and the motu are getting along great. I DO have the 'use larger disc buffer' and the 'use larger processor buffer' boxes checked. I dont no exactly what these do. What was the bus thing you were talking about?



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Message 20/38             07-Feb-02  @  09:49 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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Also, sometimes when I try to close Logic, I get a message window that says 'TIMER OR MIDI OUTPUT INACTIVE! CHECK OTHER APPLICATIONS USING TIMER OF MIDI OR RUN SETUP AGAIN'... This message occationaly appears at the time I TRY to close logic then it freezes...



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Message 21/38             08-Feb-02  @  09:57 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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Everything is working now! I messed with the Vmemory and turned the grafix excelerator down...Thanks for all the suggestions 



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Message 22/38             09-Feb-02  @  06:40 AM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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...NOT working now. Hey, what is the recomended frontside bus?



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Message 23/38             09-Feb-02  @  01:02 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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wait up - i dont get it.... how are you using this motu 2408 mkII with a laptop?...

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Message 24/38             09-Feb-02  @  07:15 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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she's a PCV-RX260DS tower.



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Message 25/38             09-Feb-02  @  08:15 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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It has 100 fsb...



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Message 26/38             09-Feb-02  @  08:38 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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I've been trying to find out what the recommended fsb is for logic with no luck. does logic need a larger fsb. IF so, what would i need for that?



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Message 27/38             11-Feb-02  @  09:58 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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try a legit version.. i also have a z1 (w/amt8) and the first thing is that logic users on the z1 list seem to have more troubles with transferring patches.. my logic IS legit (albeit 4.0 so lots of shortcomings which, i hope, includes stuff like this..) and i'll get 'midi stops working until shut down' all the time.. one way to pretty much guarantee that is to change programs on the z1.. especially if a sequence is running.. craaassshhh... and that's w/ the system transmit and receive off (otherwise the z dumps patch info everytime you switch prog #..)

?? could be the z. btw that is a hell of a fancy gear list to be running pirated ware.



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Message 28/38             11-Feb-02  @  11:31 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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I had a screen saver that would run after 15min. I shut this off and... IT WORKS!!hehehe. Thanks for all the help k, and all who gave suggestions. xoxo, I didnt want to spend the cash on a ligit copy only to find out i didnt like it. Every problem tha I've run into people seem to throw it off as 'its a crack'... so far its just been a setting. Well i know i like it so when i can afford it I'm going to get a copy  Thanks again



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Message 29/38             13-Feb-02  @  02:48 AM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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just came along...listen...I dunno man...2408MKII, pretty nicely spec'd PC, Unitor8 which aint cheap, and youre talking about affording logic?

come on, man. I understand evaluation periods which companies SHOULD let you do anyway, but...

youve spent easily $1500-$2000 on your PC, Soundcard, and midi interface...seems like you could "afford" the SW (even though logic is admittedly a bit overpriced. Maybe you should look at sonar. People are nuts over it! and its cheap)



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Message 30/38             13-Feb-02  @  07:39 AM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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just coz yer man has spent that much on his setup doesn't mean there's more money in the pot.



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Message 31/38             13-Feb-02  @  12:54 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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screensaver!!... doh! - I'm still a bit confused tho cos i though originaly you said the pc was a Sony Vaio PIII 800 ???



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Message 32/38             13-Feb-02  @  09:39 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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no. maybe no more money in the pot, but...its just funny how people disregard SW as a legitimate expense. Everyone is willing to spend thousands on HW but a sequencer just doesnt factor in?



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Message 33/38             14-Feb-02  @  02:02 AM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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hehehe... yup, screensaver, no shit! It hasnt ever run this smooth before!... hehe... sreensaver. ya, it is a vaio P3 800... What are ya confused about?

P.S. I got 2 whole dollers in my bank. Thats right, 2 WHOLE dollers. I'm not talkin a buck fifty or any shit like that, I'm talkin in whole dollers... now THATS what i'm talkin about!!;)



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Message 34/38             14-Feb-02  @  04:25 AM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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kilo..there are vaio desktops, too...

so it was just the screensaver?

did you check that optimising windows for audio link? look up if you didnt



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Message 35/38             14-Feb-02  @  09:16 AM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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influx, so what's an illegitimate expense?



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Message 36/38             14-Feb-02  @  12:22 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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ya, bro, and a leathel screensaver at that!... I tried the link but it didnt work.



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Message 37/38             14-Feb-02  @  09:21 PM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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wow. thats odd. It was there just days ago...

well..search for optimising windows for audio..something like that...all kinds of little tinkers to do that make a big difference

as for illegitimate expense? child support 



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Message 38/38             15-Feb-02  @  12:21 AM   -   RE: Logic crahing

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lol! very good!



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