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Original Message                 Date: 06-Dec-00  @  11:44 AM   -   Orion Vs. Reason

kaplan2

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Hello All!
This time I wanna talk about the diffrences between Reason And Orion.
I bought Orion three months ago, when it was a baby, and now Orion grew to be a top-notch "all in one" virtual studio.
IMHO Orion is better than Reason.
The Synths are better, and you can produce more intersting themes\lines\basses with them.
After playing four days with Reason I can say that the Sub-Tractor synth is nice, but the wasp in orion is better.
I didn't like the sampler, because it doesn't support *.wav and Akai programs.
The oroin sampler at least supports wav's.
The new {orion 2.0 pro} has so many new features, which give Orion power that is equal to Hardware.
I will be gald if you will Write your Opinions, and talk about these wonderful new programs.
Happy Composing,
Fatal Virus
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Let's make some noise!




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Message 41/53             17-Feb-01  @  06:11 PM   -   RE: Orion Vs. Reason

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buy it direct - give the cash direct to the company in full.



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Message 42/53             19-Feb-01  @  12:58 PM   -   RE: Orion Vs. Reason

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Hello!
Look-I've tried Reason and Orion as well, and all I can say is that Orion's Synths sound more FAT than the one's in Reason.
The sampler is equal.
Drums sound better in Reason, but the bass & the synths are far more better in Orion.
Reason looks more fancy-Sure-But what important is the quality of the sounds & music-and in the category Orion wins big time.
The editing is better in Reason too-the interface is more comfortable.
The Effects are equal too-IMHO.
Reason's built-in effects sound great, but the one's in Orion are interesting too...
In conclusion I think that both programs are great for advanced users, but I will give Reason 89% and Orion 94%.
That is my opinoin, you're free to express yours.
Orion vs. Reason..............



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Message 43/53             19-Feb-01  @  01:46 PM   -   RE: Orion Vs. Reason

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i think Fruityloops3 kicks Orion's butt bigtime...especially the sound-quality of FL3 is much better than orion imho...
still like reason the best because i'm used to the hardware metaphore..

Olaf



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Message 44/53             19-Feb-01  @  10:07 PM   -   RE: Orion Vs. Reason

mong

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fruityloops 3 kicks both reason's and orion's ass in my opinion.i'm using it with midi and audio.quick creative results and great interface.As with orion just cos its cheap doesn't mean its crap.I hate to admit it but i am leaning from the hardware side to software,shit,spent all that money on hardware thats now worth f***
all.can always claim that it sounds more authentic though to gain peace of mind,although noisier.



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Message 45/53             20-Feb-01  @  01:02 PM   -   RE: Orion Vs. Reason

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FLoop3 only sounds better than Orion because most of the samples included are already compressed. Use the compressor carefully in Orion and you get just as good results. Floop3 and Orion both graet programs though!



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Message 46/53             27-Feb-01  @  08:57 PM   -   RE: Orion Vs. Reason

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After just scaning the posts, I saw no mention of VSTi support in Orion. This to me lends so much more flexibilty to Orion. Although I have not yet used Reason, I would guess its a bit more stable than Orion. Stability is really my only big complaint about Orion. And when you think about the fact that Orion is written by one person, its pretty damn good. Orion gets a big thumbs-up from me.



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Message 47/53             02-Mar-01  @  12:40 AM   -   RE: Orion Vs. Reason

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i've been posting all day about
reason. i'm bored at work thinkin'
about the tune i wrote last night with
reason. i totally agree with whay k's
sayin'. i plan on integrating reason
into my setup. there are some limits
to using reason only, but fortunately i
don't have to do that. i haven't the
new version of cubase to try the
rewire function to run cubase with
reason...but that is the next step. it
didn't work when i tried it with rebirth
though...the sounds came out at like
half the volume. i hope it works with
reason 'cause i think i could really
get alot out of that program. i'd want
to use reason for drums and some
sampling hooked up to cubase to
run my midi synths, record audio,
and then multi track for the mixdown
to use some external fx and a mixing
board. that's how i see the future of
my studio. and truly, it's the shuffle
and ease of drum programming that
got me hooked on reason. haven't
really messed with the sampler
much.



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Message 48/53             03-Mar-01  @  01:57 AM   -   RE: Orion Vs. Reason

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I totally agree with you lofreq about Orion's VSTi support. I use the Pro-52, the PPG, and Reaktor in Orion and the results are great. Reason fanatics will realize how limiting it is after using it for a few months. If it supported VSTi's it would be a completely different product.

But I'm surprised that Orion isn't that stable for you. What kind of crashes do you have and what's your setup? I've been using it for months and it's rock solid for me. I can even have MIDI-OX open, mapping MIDI-IN data, and Wavelab open, recording the audio output of Orion while it plays. (And I just have a PIII-450 w/ 128MB RAM.)



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Message 49/53             04-Mar-01  @  09:02 AM   -   RE: Orion Vs. Reason

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Hi!
Yesterday, I worked with the full version of Reason in my friends studio and I can say two things about it:

1. Reason Demo sucks big time.
The worst demo I've ever saw.
It won't let you do anything.

2.The program is better than I thought.
Together with Rebirth-it is very good for Acid & Acid Techno.
It is also very suitble for Jungle & Drum and Bass.
The option of seeing the cables and the Gear is very neat.
It really gives you that studio feeling.
The sound is very good, too-although Orion's sound is more "Fat".
I can only say that both programs are great & you can make pro tracks with them both.
Fruity Loops 3 is also very good, but it is more suitble for commercial & Club music.



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Message 50/53             05-Mar-01  @  05:52 AM   -   RE: Orion Vs. Reason

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oh!... i didn't try Orion Pro yet... so they got VSTi support in then already!   ?? - great!! - that'd make it a total killer



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