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Subject: 911 video manipulation/hologram
Original Message Date: 10-Mar-04 @ 09:59 AM - 911 video manipulation/hologram
The video showing the supposed crash of flight 175 into the south tower depicts the plane seemingly melting into the building, with absolutely no debris or explosion upon impact. View the following frames in succession at www.thewebfairy.org/911.... one can clearly see the 'plane' sliding into the building as if it were an apparition. One can only conclude, either the footage was doctored before release (live-video manipulation technology exists), or some type of military-grade was employed. Note: this is not a track of light and shadow, nor is this phenomenon exclusive to this video. The same effect appears in several different versions from varying angles.
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/004.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/005.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/006.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/007.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/009.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/011.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/012.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/013.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/016.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/032.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/004.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/005.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/006.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/007.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/009.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/011.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/012.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/013.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/016.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane2/032.jpg
Message 11/57 10-Mar-04 @ 10:50 AM - RE: 911 video manipulation/hologram
and why was so much of the network-sanctioned footage decimated by at least 10 frames, while others were overexposed for 2 or more frames?
Message 12/57 10-Mar-04 @ 10:53 AM - RE: 911 video manipulation/hologram
so there once was an event and its video
then there were lots of examples and the video of the event was lost
then there were lots of examples and the video of the event was lost
Message 13/57 10-Mar-04 @ 11:00 AM - RE: 911 video manipulation/hologram
All in all, what is depicted defies every known law of physics. A 757 going upwards of 500mph
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well for a start the slow cruising speed isnt 500mph surely?... i mean 660mph is the speed of sound you nut, or are you saying a small domestic airliner slow cruises at over 3/4 the speed of sound in a non-thin air environment at around 1000 ft above sea level?.... I think you need to go and checkout exactly HOW a plane stays up in the air, and what the implications are for the air space around it... (a huge vacuum above the wing & behind the plane)
now how long is this plane?
350 ft?... 660mph is about 1116 ft/sec ... so lets say the plane entered the building in about .3 of a second....
You say:
"more like rows upon rows of reinforced steel and concrete. "
I disagree, modern buildings of that height are NOT rigid, they are actualy quite flimsy, and the spaces between floor girders arent covered with much more than glass plates and pre-fab exterior facings - remember the weight stress on a steeel frame of that height would be severe if it had to carry huge amounts of heavy structural material.
I disagree anyways,
i saw it live on TV, many people video cam'd it with hand helds. tens of thousands of people on the ground below saw it with their own eyes
sure, I can beleive the people who crashed it may be a conspiracy, but not this twaddle.
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well for a start the slow cruising speed isnt 500mph surely?... i mean 660mph is the speed of sound you nut, or are you saying a small domestic airliner slow cruises at over 3/4 the speed of sound in a non-thin air environment at around 1000 ft above sea level?.... I think you need to go and checkout exactly HOW a plane stays up in the air, and what the implications are for the air space around it... (a huge vacuum above the wing & behind the plane)
now how long is this plane?
350 ft?... 660mph is about 1116 ft/sec ... so lets say the plane entered the building in about .3 of a second....
You say:
"more like rows upon rows of reinforced steel and concrete. "
I disagree, modern buildings of that height are NOT rigid, they are actualy quite flimsy, and the spaces between floor girders arent covered with much more than glass plates and pre-fab exterior facings - remember the weight stress on a steeel frame of that height would be severe if it had to carry huge amounts of heavy structural material.
I disagree anyways,
i saw it live on TV, many people video cam'd it with hand helds. tens of thousands of people on the ground below saw it with their own eyes
sure, I can beleive the people who crashed it may be a conspiracy, but not this twaddle.
Message 14/57 10-Mar-04 @ 11:18 AM - RE: 911 video manipulation/hologram
"well for a start the slow cruising speed isnt 500mph surely?... i mean 660mph is the speed of sound you nut, or are you saying a small domestic airliner slow cruises at over 3/4 the speed of sound in a non-thin air environment at around 1000 ft above sea level?.... I think you need to go and checkout exactly HOW a plane stays up in the air, and what the implications are for the air space around it... (a huge vacuum above the wing & behind the plane)"
You're really rather condescending. But, yes, actually the cruising speed of a 757 is appx. 530mph. Top speed is over 600. It's my understanding that the plane was travelling considerably in excess of cruise speed before impact.
check http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,34183,00.html for the specs.
"now how long is this plane? 350 ft"
Less than half that length. 169 ft.
[[You say:
"more like rows upon rows of reinforced steel and concrete. "
I disagree, modern buildings of that height are NOT rigid, they are actualy quite flimsy, and the spaces between floor girders arent covered with much more than glass plates and pre-fab exterior facings - remember the weight stress on a steeel frame of that height would be severe if it had to carry huge amounts of heavy structural material.]]
The above notwithstanding, the architects of the trade center specifically designed the towers to withstand the impact of a boeing 767-- not too flimsy.
"i saw it live on TV, many people video cam'd it with hand helds. tens of thousands of people on the ground below saw it with their own eyes"
Less than a handful of amateur tapes have surfaced. And there is absolutely no consensus as to what those "tens of thousands of people" actually saw. Some even claim they saw a smaller, drone-like plane. And how can we actually accept eye-witness testimony at such an understandably frenzied time? I sincerely doubt the average bystander would be able to distinguish between a passenger jet, a drone, or a hologram when the towers are ablaze and people are screaming bloody murder.
You're really rather condescending. But, yes, actually the cruising speed of a 757 is appx. 530mph. Top speed is over 600. It's my understanding that the plane was travelling considerably in excess of cruise speed before impact.
check http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,34183,00.html for the specs.
"now how long is this plane? 350 ft"
Less than half that length. 169 ft.
[[You say:
"more like rows upon rows of reinforced steel and concrete. "
I disagree, modern buildings of that height are NOT rigid, they are actualy quite flimsy, and the spaces between floor girders arent covered with much more than glass plates and pre-fab exterior facings - remember the weight stress on a steeel frame of that height would be severe if it had to carry huge amounts of heavy structural material.]]
The above notwithstanding, the architects of the trade center specifically designed the towers to withstand the impact of a boeing 767-- not too flimsy.
"i saw it live on TV, many people video cam'd it with hand helds. tens of thousands of people on the ground below saw it with their own eyes"
Less than a handful of amateur tapes have surfaced. And there is absolutely no consensus as to what those "tens of thousands of people" actually saw. Some even claim they saw a smaller, drone-like plane. And how can we actually accept eye-witness testimony at such an understandably frenzied time? I sincerely doubt the average bystander would be able to distinguish between a passenger jet, a drone, or a hologram when the towers are ablaze and people are screaming bloody murder.
Message 15/57 10-Mar-04 @ 11:25 AM - RE: 911 video manipulation/hologram
The speed of impact of Flight 175 was 590 mph =(865 ft/s. )
Message 16/57 10-Mar-04 @ 12:18 PM - RE: 911 video manipulation/hologram
" well, no need for theories anymore. that 911 was an elaborate hoax has been proven beyond the shadow of a doubt already. Anyone who's devoted more than a cursory glance at the inconsistencies in the official story has come to that conclusion."
yeah thats what they said about the moon landing...........
greg
yeah thats what they said about the moon landing...........
greg
Message 17/57 10-Mar-04 @ 12:31 PM - RE: 911 video manipulation/hologram
"" well, no need for theories anymore. that 911 was an elaborate hoax has been proven beyond the shadow of a doubt already. Anyone who's devoted more than a cursory glance at the inconsistencies in the official story has come to that conclusion."
yeah thats what they said about the moon landing..........."
I understand. and I do realize I'm generalizing...but there are just great gaping holes in the establishment's story that have yet to be accounted for. Until they are, I can't help but believe it was at least partly orchestrated by the government.
yeah thats what they said about the moon landing..........."
I understand. and I do realize I'm generalizing...but there are just great gaping holes in the establishment's story that have yet to be accounted for. Until they are, I can't help but believe it was at least partly orchestrated by the government.
Message 18/57 10-Mar-04 @ 12:38 PM - RE: 911 video manipulation/hologram
"http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,34183,00.html for the specs"
bu hey popular imaginging hey
bu hey popular imaginging hey
Message 19/57 10-Mar-04 @ 12:42 PM - RE: 911 video manipulation/hologram
its would be nice and easy to blame the bush administration for it....just like it would be easy to say the americans had some part in orchestrating pearl harbour, the jkf assination and the moon landing but we all know that life is never easy.......and generalising doesn't help the argument...
you can find motives for anything....solid proof is often harder to find which is why conspiracy theories remain as theories and not facts...
greg
you can find motives for anything....solid proof is often harder to find which is why conspiracy theories remain as theories and not facts...
greg
Message 20/57 10-Mar-04 @ 01:32 PM - RE: 911 video manipulation/hologram
define truth as a function of popularity
call the public
call the public
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