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Subject: Number 5 has arrived.
Original Message Date: 10-Mar-03 @ 12:24 AM - Number 5 has arrived.
Message 70/80 30-Mar-03 @ 06:49 PM - RE: Number 5 has arrived.
die with you"
it's a common fallacy that having children will carry on
one's own opinion. it will still die with you, you know;
the only point surviving will be that it was ok to have
these children. they will have their own. i want to know
why it's so necessary to have this all-important
"message" live on past you and your Brobdingnagian
[word of the day!] but oh so typical human "i matter!"®
ego most are never able to crawl past.
i did read what you have to say. it seemed to me just
another glorified salesman's pitch for the preciousness
that is life and the natural order of things and that we
are powerless to have any control over our actions, and
i still don't buy it. bury the human mind's capabilities in
all the ways modern man created just for this very
purpose, just don't claim that it doesn't exist.
it's not up to me, or you, or you, that others see a RIGHT
WAY and act accordingly; the most i and anyone else
can do is work on oneself and not self-contradict.
simple but very, very difficult. much easier to get
knocked up etc. and i won't even get into that having
children is willfully putting blinders on to the fact that
this planet needs NO MORE of that, for a while. if ever.
i don't know if i'm convinced the human race reeeeallly
needs to be around, you know. and frankly i think the
people consciously deciding to put more humans on
this planet are even worse off mentally than those that *
made an oopsie*.
and i'm not sure i get what you're on about with the
biological thing...why, then, the fight against cancer?
justification by comparison is the disease [eg at least
i'm better than THAT...good ENOUGH...etc]...seeking
difference is merely a by-product of that. i don't think i'm
guilty of either. assume what you want though. you
seem to have the most intellectual excuses out of
anyone else here, excuses though they still might be.
i love cats.
Message 71/80 30-Mar-03 @ 07:52 PM - RE: Number 5 has arrived.
prostate cancer, innit?
Message 72/80 30-Mar-03 @ 07:54 PM - RE: Number 5 has arrived.
"Psychological li"it's a common fallacy that having children will carry on one's own opinion. " Not if your opinion is to not have children - aahh
I hear you and i thought i covered that, the point i try to make is that we are natural first and the natural reason to be here is to make more. I respect your opinion (I did share it with you before i married) but to argue this cycle, no matter how sophisticated the modern argument, is like tackling a tsunami with inflatable armbands.
"bury the human mind's capabilities in all the ways modern man created just for this very purpose" I don't know who you call boss but this is exactlz where the wheels come off, you think this is organised, believing the "latent potential" primer you got free with the cornflakes, we are nothing special we are animals man! (does this explain how we behave toward each other and the planet) its response, change and response and numbers matter, the more experiments the more chance. OK nowadays where evolution is not the factor in perpetuating the species it is a little neither matter here nor there as it constitutes such a minute fraction of our developmental story, but doo watch that space
"why, then, the fight against cancer? " Thats societal care and the hipocratic oath or money and pharma companies if you want to look at it that way, but thats another story
I don't want to rub anyone ip the wrong way but cafe room reasons have no place on the African planes, besides kids are ace, fun, loving little bundles and i love it.
Message 73/80 30-Mar-03 @ 08:04 PM - RE: Number 5 has arrived.
without them where would little boys be?"
Charles Aznavour..
Message 74/80 30-Mar-03 @ 08:13 PM - RE: Number 5 has arrived.
like the captain "suggests" in his epic> universe according to geoffrey brown....
we inhabit....we earthlings consume and pollute and destroy ourselves....it's going too fast to stop the machine....find a girl or boy....enjoy kisses under the stars....all to lovely music.
i haven't heard an incorrect argument here yet.
but i think we're missing tha beat.
Message 75/80 30-Mar-03 @ 08:14 PM - RE: Number 5 has arrived.
I'm done. Fuck all of you.
Message 76/80 30-Mar-03 @ 08:26 PM - RE: Number 5 has arrived.
yes of course, some edge of a box like 'Fertile offspring" while determining our current actions (love base anyway) - its an arbitary, or at least a something else
animals yes - what else?
Message 77/80 30-Mar-03 @ 08:37 PM - RE: Number 5 has arrived.
all of us naked...with bits of hair...farting away etc....all of us. okay
yae no craeture to this earth.
well of course not~
Message 78/80 30-Mar-03 @ 08:39 PM - RE: Number 5 has arrived.
shoulda read:
okay NOBODY....you the exception. yae no craeture to this earth. well of course not~
Message 79/80 30-Mar-03 @ 11:18 PM - RE: Number 5 has arrived.
What are we then... aliens? ;)
Steve.
Message 80/80 30-Mar-03 @ 11:33 PM - RE: Number 5 has arrived.
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