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Original Message 1/23 20-Feb-98 @ 11:20 PM - maxisound home studio pro 64

rife45

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Hi, I am thinking about buying a maxisound home studio pro 64 and have a few questions. So if anyone has this card I would really appreciate your input.

1) How do the midi sounds on the maxisound compare to the awe 64's midi?
2) any problems installing the card with windows 95b
3) after recording tracks is there any lag in what was recorded

thanks,

Don

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Message 2/23 21-Feb-98 @ 09:13 PM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

Chris

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For the money it's quite a good card, I've had it for about four months with no problems.

1) Pretty well, I've only heard demo's of the AWE but as far as I can tell the Maxi card is much better.

2) Na, perfect PnP

3) Thats mainly down to the software, but Calkwalk's hasen't given me any problems using K6-200 and 32Mb.

My only grumble is with the instument editing software for the sampleing side, that a bit shite.

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Message 3/23 22-Feb-98 @ 01:35 AM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

Don

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Chris, thanks for the feedback on the maxisound. For the money this definitely looks like the card for me.

Don

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Message 4/23 22-Feb-98 @ 09:01 AM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

acid cat

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ok I don't own a Maxi64 but a friend of mine recorded his band's first single using the maxi 64, cool edit, and cakewalk; the song did quite well and recieved a lot of airplay in Australia (it was acoustic instrument based, not midi). Sorry I don't know anything much about the card, but my friend did rave about it a lot.

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Message 5/23 24-Feb-98 @ 11:16 PM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

adams04infonie.fr

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had mine for a couple of months,needs the YamahaD50extension ,this is a bit of a drag to install if you check email onDeja news i think.just read the PC thing here,so far i got REbirth Cool edit and mean to add stuff.No mention of CDs for sampling ,im still looking around to decide how to get certain instruments,EastWest have some good looking CDs and Ilio.com sent me a freeCDrom with Groovemaster sounds cool.I bought my card in france and had to download updated drivers 3D to work with DirectX and Rebirth,AND to get my second Midi OUT to function in Quartz.So far i cant get Rebirth hooked up to midi or sync with Quartz,i think there may be aproblem with ESSMPU401, i dont know why.Anyone else got alot of hiss on the midi side,the audio side seems cool.IM probably gonna get a re recordable cd recorder not dat, anyone got any comments on using maxisoundpro64 for a finished CD recorded onto cd dtrect to disk?Can anyone reccommend GTR samples on cd? i also heard the VIRUS analog synth ,cool.

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Message 6/23 25-Feb-98 @ 08:51 AM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

Clemens.Kurtz

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Hi!

I�ve a Maxisound 64 PRO installed and I have to tell you
that this is a great soundcard. Really NO problems with installation, drivers, etc. (WIN95B). The Midi- and DSP soundchip (DREAM) is the same as Terratec uses onboard their EWS64. I know that Guillemot and Terratec did some jobs together, but it seems that Guillemot has more experience with building up a reliable soundcard then Terratec does.
I did some CD-recording jobs as well (Yamaha CDR 400/SCSI)
and all worked fine.
The new Cubase VST (3.55) Asio driver now recognizes the 8 separate Dream-audio-channels too.

If you have further questions about Maxisound PRO you can contact me.

Ciao

Clemens

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Message 7/23 10-Mar-98 @ 02:26 AM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

bgirar51

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Yeah, how much is it, and where can I get one? peace

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Message 8/23 12-Mar-98 @ 11:31 PM - Clemens - Here is where 2 get it:

gibsonlp

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http://www.guillemot.com/usa2/index2.html

I am gonna get it myself 2 ;) it rocks.

GibsonLP

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Message 9/23 17-Mar-98 @ 01:06 PM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

tpuisseg

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The Home studio Pro 64 (HSP64) seems to work well, and it's analog part does indeed work VERY well. But there's a terrible bug about the digital I/O section. The S/PDIF Input has a severe digital reclocking flaw which produces strange artefacts such as random "pops" and "clocs" up to 0 dB on the tracks your are currently recording via S/PDIF !!! I've tried with inputing with a Promix 01, a Tascam DAT and an ESI-4000 Sampler. Nothing to do, as soon as you press REC on the digital I/O you get one random click every two seconds or so.
I'm in contact with Guillemot here in France and I'll give you more details on this feature as soon as I get something new....

Let's hope it isn't a hardware flaw on my card and nothing to do with the card design itself......

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Message 10/23 21-Mar-98 @ 09:14 PM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

Mel

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I'm in the UK.... very interested in this card. I've seen the MaxiSound home
Studio Pro for �205. However...the US list price is $199. Why so expensive?

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Message 11/23 21-Mar-98 @ 11:06 PM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

kilo

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you can get it cheaper than that........ in the UK

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Message 12/23 22-Mar-98 @ 07:38 PM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

Mel

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That's great news! Approx. prices? Where to buy from? Your help is appreciated.

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Message 13/23 26-Mar-98 @ 05:49 PM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

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oops i opened another chat on tech stuff just now , then i found this (again)Anyway just to let you know there is an official list with guys at Ubi soft and Gi too contributing, check on the www.guillemot.com . its probably better than tech support which is probably snowed under with Gamers questions.Richardfullerbenn has a maxi site under www somewhere ,hes pretty helpful.cheers adams04@infonie.fr

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Message 14/23 24-Apr-98 @ 04:39 AM - RE: Maxisound64 H S Pro BAD S/PDIF Take care!!

chaumex

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PC soundcard "Maxi Sound 64 Home Studio Pro",(Guillemot), reduces 2.5 db.
the amplitude level of any audio signal sent through its digital output,
(S/PDIF).This soundcard don�t carry a correctly standard S/PDIF. Guillemot
hides this feature to customers. It is NOT mentioned in any manual or
publicity. Take care!

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Message 15/23 25-Apr-98 @ 02:26 PM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

erikr

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I just read that this card doesn't support correctly standard S/PDIF. What does this mean ? It is unable to record S/PDIF output from other peripherals/there are recording errors like clicks...?

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Message 16/23 04-May-98 @ 08:30 PM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

tpuisseg

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Absolutely, MAXI-SOUND HSP Pro64 is NOT IEC958 COMPLIANT: the official S/PDIF Consumer format norm has been completly ignored when the sound card has been designed!!! I have this info directly from Guillemot's tech manager here in France. I quote: "We have chosen a fixed 44100Hz technology for our S/PDIF interface. If the inputing unit is not EXACTLY at 44100Hz, a few samples may be left over due to reclocking problems. These MAY induce some sound artefacts in no way audible by a human ear."

These "hypothetical" artefacts are more than audible when clicks come up at 0db on your recording meters !!! I have pushed intensive tests on a first card that I returned thinking it was faulty. The second one I received had exactly the same problems and after long debates with Guillemot tech services they simply said "it was something possible... and that It would be better if I changed for a Professionnal S/PDIF card..."

Main problems on S/PDIF are:
- Random clicks and pops up to 0 db when recording
- +- 3db loss on input and output SPDIF transfers
- A terrible aliasing on low freqs (Bass Drum)

All these design flaws affects ONLY the SPDIF I/O, the analog circuits and the MIDI sampler works PERFECTLY well and is vastly superior than SB cards for that price range.

To conclude, HSPro 64 is a fine card for general and home studio use (much better than SB64) and the Dream Chip is really worth the deal to get 8 Audio channels in Cubase or Cakewalk. But forget using the so-called S/PDIF interface as is absolutly not reliable and really crappy.
Guillemot has completly FU****-up all their customers with marketing stuff but don't get fooled: S/PDIF interface for less than �180 isn't for today. I'm going for a SEK'D Prodif32 as soon as I get paid back by Guillemot... Hope that one will do it's job....

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Message 17/23 05-May-98 @ 01:10 AM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

lizard

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I was wondering if I got this card and later decided I wanted a "real" S/PDIF interface, could I use another card along with this one? I am new to this stuff, but this stuff, but this card seems right to me. I would appretiate a response through e-mail, if possible. Thanks a lot!

-Lizard

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Message 18/23 15-May-98 @ 11:28 PM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

dxw

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Honestly, for the money, it's a damn good card. If you were so worried about -3db at certain areas of your recordings, then go buy an Event, or midiman. It's $200, y'all, not $2000. For the money, NOTHING compares. They sold out in America, so rather than waiting, I bought the Game Theater 64, same hardware, less options (no SPDIF, less software, etc.) Coincidentally, due to the demand and obvious design characteristics, Gi has started selling the SPDIF separately, for those who want it for the GT 64 (NOT Dynamic 3D Edition), it's $100. The long awaited PCI part is due in Q3-4, so E-mail them with design considerations, they are happy to hear 'em (trust me, they really want to know!)! Me, I want some real samper functions, a la Akai S-2000, like resonance filters, ability to write/read to other samplers (kinda like the Terratec!). It's got flaws, but so will the new Yamaha when it comes out. Only I am perfect!!!! It's just a damn good deal, if you can find it.

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Message 19/23 19-May-98 @ 03:26 PM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

pilarsw

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Dear All

I have "Maxi Sound Pro", and I'm going to add the SW60XG card from Yamaha (the DB50XG is not available in Poland).
Did You have any experience with this marriage. If it is work O.K. I think that SW60XG should produce a better quality sounds because I can connect the output from SW60XG to the digital input of MaxiSound omiiting the Codec whis has woese dynamic.

Cheers
Wojtek

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Message 20/23 20-May-98 @ 02:47 PM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

Clemens.Kurtz

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Hi!

It should work fine cos the SW60XG needs NO (!) IRQ and
DMA sources.

A friend of mine has the combination AWE64 and SW60XG
at work without any pronlems. So I think there should be
no probs with Maxi PRO and SW60XG.

Ciao

Clemens

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Message 21/23 21-May-98 @ 03:11 PM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

dj_creation2

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I have had loads of problems with my Tropez PLus sound card, and et cetra has let me have a Maxi Sound home studio for �199. I know this is cheaper than in the shops but is the card as good as the Turtle Beach Tropez Plus in sound quality and for sampling or have I been had!

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Message 22/23 22-May-98 @ 12:53 PM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

jason.craig

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One message up there said the instrument editing is shite.
Is this true? Also I'm considering an AVM apex or the
EWS S (not xl). Any suggestions on which would be best
as a sampler. I don't care about digital at all right now.

thanx

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Message 23/23 23-May-98 @ 07:40 PM - RE: maxisound home studio pro 64

gothicworld

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Well, the Home Studio Pro 64 card rocks for certain, only thing is, I seem to have a problem. When I first install the drivers and software, I can control the wave and other input levels using the effect (maxieffects) panel, but the thing is, as soon as I update the driver for direct x 5.0 I can no longer control the wave playback volume level using the maxieffects panel

Any ideas? Thanks.

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