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Subject: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold


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Original Message 1/22             20-Jul-98  @  12:27 AM   -   Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

J.

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I read a quote from an article that stood in "Elektronik Världen", a swedish hifi/electronics consumer mag. They'd tested a buncha soundcards and the conclusion was the following (whereas C-labs concerned): the soundblaster vibra actually outperfoms the goldcard. The signal-to.noise of the vibra was tested at ca. 80 db. whilst the gold at ca. 74db. And the vibra had also much better linearity. (I think that the vibra is c-labs less expenisive card, dunno but that though...). Thought you ought to know.

Anyways, my advice is buy a cheaper card (vibra, daytona etc.) or save up to an event (a.o.) card something; don't go for the in-between coz you'll probably end up regretting it. My 2 cents for u.

J.



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Message 2/22             20-Jul-98  @  03:39 AM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

Astroman

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Right on. I just picked up a turtle beach Montego. This thing is unbelievabe.... I swear there is no noise AT ALL... like a 95db s/n... I can crank the gain on my soundcard and mixer and stereo all the way up and still here NO hiss at all... its unbelievable... and the sound is great. it set me back less than $100... and there's even a wavetable header I can attach my db50xg to. Like J said... dont waste your money on some piece of shit awe64.... get one of these inexpensive Turtle Beach cards... just my 2 cents....



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Message 3/22             20-Jul-98  @  10:51 AM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

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yeah...... same with my old TB tahiti.... loud & proud...... great sound....



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Message 4/22             20-Jul-98  @  12:06 PM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

Mike

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Yeh, but I had a TB Daytona and it was a noisy as hell. Totally unuseable for audio.

I'm back with a Yamaha OPL3 SAx which is great (and v. cheap (20 quid))and a lot better than my Tascam 244 4 track.



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Message 5/22             20-Jul-98  @  01:18 PM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

jet

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I had TB Fiji. And I wasn't happy with it at all. Firstly it took me almost 2 days to install it and then about one month later it crashed and damaged my monitor. Got my money back for the soundcard but had to replace monitor at my expence.







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Message 6/22             20-Jul-98  @  03:54 PM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

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Yeah too right, twink once, twink twice, twink 'downt bwuy it'.



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Message 7/22             21-Jul-98  @  04:54 AM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

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Jet... how did a soundcard ruin your monitor? Really, Im curious... cause I cant for the life of me figure out how that could happen. I could see how a video adaptor could... if it pushed out a refresh rate incompatable with your monitor. But a soundcard? That's odd.



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Message 8/22             21-Jul-98  @  04:09 PM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

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yeah... weirdly on loads of machines i never once ever had a problem installing any sound card... i cant figure it out when people say it took 2 days etc..... also... maybe alot of these noisey soundcard systems claims come from being too close to the video card in the slots... household interference... bad earthing etc... cos again.. i never heard a soundcard... not even a SB16 that was too noisey to use.... weird..... cant figure it out.... i mean all systems pump out noise.... and when i hear it, i think...well, you wanna go into a fully pro 48 track and listen to the noise when the faders are pushed up...... there is no such thing as a noiseless system..... no matter what you spend.... i'm not criticising here, but it does seem weird...



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Message 9/22             22-Jul-98  @  11:29 AM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

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I get some disk access noise when I record audio waves from my line out to dat...its maybe poor power supply regulation or something...dont know...I should really do all those things you suggested for screening etc...Im a lazy bastard tho...



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Message 10/22             23-Jul-98  @  11:20 AM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

jet

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Astroman, Fiji was plain' some loops but then suddenly loud distortioned noise came out of one channel I turned off the monitor later I tried to turn it on again but nothing happened checked the fuse (I had powered monitors) - it was allright so I just had to throw it into rubbish bin as nobody was able to repair it

Kilo, OK it didn't take me 2 WHOLE days to install Fiji. I mean for 2 days I was coming back home from work and was messing with my computer tryin' to set everything properly. The main problem of Fiji was that it refused to install properly via P'nP procedure with another soundcard already installed (cheap ESS). So I turned off P'n'P and tried to install Fiji manually it didn't work. At last I installed Fiji but had to remove another soundcard.



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Message 11/22             23-Jul-98  @  12:38 PM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

Astroman

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Ohhhh.. ok... I thought you meant the graphics monitor... the thing you're looking at now.... I guess I could see how a soundcard could conceivably ruin speakers...



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Message 12/22             23-Jul-98  @  08:25 PM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

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Astroman, I heard the Montego has no line out - only the crappy "speaker" output for games players and desktop speakers. Surely you gotta get some mad hiss due to the noisy internal amplifier- Or do you have the S/PDIF board?



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Message 13/22             23-Jul-98  @  09:36 PM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

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I dont know if its a line out or speaker out.... I know theres only one out... but it doesnt matter cause whatever it is there is honestly NO hiss at all.... the sound quality is awesome... like I mentioned above... and no, Im not useing the s/pdif (the digital out is a seperate add on that hasnt even been released yet). You can check out all the specs for this board at www.tbeach.com



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Message 14/22             23-Jul-98  @  10:51 PM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

Will

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Cool. Clean audio for me! Cheers Astroman



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Message 15/22             24-Jul-98  @  02:18 AM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

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well, maybe there were no IRQ's left over so the card didnt install



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Message 16/22             24-Jul-98  @  03:25 AM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

Astro

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Yup... IRQs will do it everytime. Gotta get those straightened out. Thanks god for the PCI bus... I just discovered they can actually share IRQs...



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Message 17/22             24-Jul-98  @  03:28 AM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

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Anyone know when this will be released? The specs sound fantastic, but is it vaporware?

dudkat@earthlink.net



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Message 18/22             25-Jul-98  @  02:40 AM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

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it's out now isnt it??......



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Message 19/22             12-Aug-98  @  05:51 AM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

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Is there any way to quiet down the hum the harddrive, internal fan etc... sends to audio? Could it be improper grounding on my system? I have a Yamaha OPL3-A soundcard, could this be the problem? One of you experts please give me the lowdown. thanks, Barry



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Message 20/22             06-Sep-98  @  03:03 PM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

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AWE64 Works fine for me - OK. I'll take everyone's point that it is noisy, but for me that's good because the kind of music I'm doing is dirty and I welcome all the interference and noise I can get!!!!!!



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Message 21/22             08-Sep-98  @  03:37 AM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

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The tb montego is without a doubt the cleanest sounding card for the money. I had an awe 64 piece of crap,it didnt sound any better then my sound blaster 16. For less than a $100 the montego is the best.



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Message 22/22             18-Sep-98  @  11:16 PM   -   RE: Twink twice before buying an AWE 64 gold

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All SB products smell like fish



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