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Subject: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
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Original Message 1/29 07-Nov-00 @ 01:45 PM - Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
My question is, would it be worthwhile to buy a mixer with more channels than you think you'd need so that you have the option of using all stereo channels? Are there any disadvantages to having all stereo channels?
Ta much,
Si.
Message 2/29 07-Nov-00 @ 04:36 PM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
If you buy a big mixer with lots of mono channels (which I would advise), you can plug the L out from your gear into Channel 1 on the mixer. Plug the R out from your gear into Channel 2 on your mixer. Pan channel 1 ALL the way to the left, and channel 2 ALL the way to the right, and vio-la, you have stereo. I have a couple of pieces doing that and it works great.
Message 3/29 07-Nov-00 @ 04:46 PM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
Disadvantages of stereo channels? The stereo-only channels that the Behringers have are no good, having 2 mono channels with the option of linking the controls to one channel strip is much better and more versatile.
Oh and remember: If you need x amount of channels now doesn't mean that x amount of channels is enough for you in the future so always buy a bigger mixer than you need. =)
Message 4/29 07-Nov-00 @ 06:41 PM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
The number of channels you need in a mixer is really a function of how much stuff you have going on in any given track, not necessarily how much crap you could theoretically plug into it
-Craig
Message 5/29 07-Nov-00 @ 07:23 PM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
Message 6/29 07-Nov-00 @ 07:43 PM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
What about this mixer........
http://www.behringer.de/eng/products/eurorack/mx3242x.htm
I presume on this that it has 32 mono channels, which can be set up for 16 stereo, or am I wrong? When you say 32 channel console, do you mean 32 seperate channels, each with their own faders and EQ?
Thanks for the help guys,
Si.
Message 7/29 07-Nov-00 @ 07:50 PM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
24 or 32 is good. 16 is not enough, imho (well, not enough for me anyway and my music isn't THAT complicated).
And if you can't afford a Spirit Ghost you can always buy a Behringer Eurodesk MX3282, it's damn cheap (and not THAT bad although the EQ is kinda limited but that's why you have the external parametric equalizers for =)
Message 8/29 08-Nov-00 @ 10:00 PM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
-Craig
Message 9/29 09-Nov-00 @ 06:44 AM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
Message 10/29 09-Nov-00 @ 10:02 AM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
I would sure like one though =)
Message 11/29 09-Nov-00 @ 04:41 PM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
Message 13/29 09-Nov-00 @ 08:14 PM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
the cr is WELL used, the mx is almost new... but the cr still feels better, more solid or something.
you can find used cr1604s for $300-400US, that's only ~$150 more than the mx but is more than worth it, for sure.
and yeah, if you need more than 24ch at once something's not right.
Message 14/29 10-Nov-00 @ 01:53 PM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
Is it the sound quality of the Behringers that gives them a bad name, or the build of the units? Are they prone to breaking and generally being unreliable?
Cheers again,
Si.
Message 16/29 10-Nov-00 @ 06:38 PM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
Message 17/29 14-Nov-00 @ 06:27 AM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
that MX3242X is only a SIXTEEN channel mixer.
it has 16 tape returns that you can switch to, for monitoring off say ADAT or whatever. YES they can be used for inputs but no EQ, no Aux sends, naught.
16 channels really should be enough, but whats always struck me as funny was that companies like behringer say "16 inputs" when 2, or 4 of the channels are dedicated stereo. thats pretty cheesy.
I recommend the alesis studio32. its actually similiar to that behringer youre lookin at (which isnt even available yet btw, im pretty sure) and goes for about $500.
has a very nice sounding EQ, 4 aux sends, 2 monitor sends (can be used as aux sends) 4 returns, and bussing as well.
Ive had TWO and had very little problems with them
Message 18/29 14-Nov-00 @ 12:53 PM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
I'll check your recommendation as well.
Cheers,
Si.
Message 19/29 14-Nov-00 @ 01:38 PM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
The point is, stereo channels can be manipulated effectively to mono.
Message 20/29 14-Nov-00 @ 01:39 PM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
Cheers,
Si.
Message 21/29 14-Nov-00 @ 10:31 PM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
And thanks DZ, though I'm still a little confused there. If I use some channels as mono, I presume that I don't get individual EQ's on them? Would this be right?
Cheers,
Si.
Message 22/29 15-Nov-00 @ 03:56 AM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
and..the O1v, well..it sounds very good. a LOT of page flipping, gets a little annoying, but for what you get for the bucks you spend...mmm hmmmm!
Message 23/29 15-Nov-00 @ 02:09 PM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
Message 24/29 16-Nov-00 @ 12:09 AM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
Cheers for the info guys,
si.
Message 25/29 22-Nov-00 @ 06:03 AM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
Speaking of stereo pairs, I currently have a Mackie LM3204. After using it for a year, I think I'd be better off with a mixer with more flexible EQ, and real subgroups. I've done some research, the Alesis Studio 32 seems my best bet. Never mind the channels, I can move a plug. Never mind the stereo, I can use a pan pot.
- Ron.
Message 26/29 23-Nov-00 @ 04:26 AM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
Ive bought three of them so far for that price.
try www.recycler.com
the EQ is a little more flexible..but..if you wanna really go, why not look at a 24/8 with a fully parametric eq. well..2 bands are para.
but the alesis..it sounds good, man.
and actually..I can beat that price new for ya, too if you really want one
Message 27/29 23-Nov-00 @ 08:36 AM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
I hate America ;)
Message 28/29 23-Nov-00 @ 04:29 PM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
Message 29/29 24-Nov-00 @ 11:56 PM - RE: Any point in having 16 stereo channels??
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