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Subject: Now here's a goofyass question...
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Original Message 1/14 25-Oct-00 @ 07:49 PM - Now here's a goofyass question...
I really for the life of me can't figure out the difference between techno styles?
Maybe it's my ear (I remember the first time I heard "Bitches Brew" it just sounded like noise), but I can't get the difference between House, Techno, Hard Trance, Jungle, you name it.
Not that they all sound the same, I can hear differences, just can't put my finger on it.
Message 2/14 25-Oct-00 @ 09:03 PM - RE: Now here's a goofyass question...
Message 3/14 25-Oct-00 @ 09:42 PM - RE: Now here's a goofyass question...
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So what I'm asking, for example, is what is the actual difference between "trance" and "hard trance". If you don't mind my asking... Jeeze - is it like it's some sort of Masonic Lodge thing where you need to have the right hat and know the secret handshake?
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Message 6/14 25-Oct-00 @ 11:50 PM - RE: Now here's a goofyass question...
Answers like this just make me feel like no one really has a grasp on this subject.
I've got butt-loads of CDs, been to many raves and clubs. Come on, people. Someone must have a clue.
Message 7/14 26-Oct-00 @ 12:48 AM - RE: Now here's a goofyass question...
Message 8/14 26-Oct-00 @ 01:28 AM - RE: Now here's a goofyass question...
Drum and Bass?
Message 9/14 26-Oct-00 @ 09:14 AM - RE: Now here's a goofyass question...
Jungle came first, I can't remember when it all started, but it was around at the time when I was listening to Hardcore, roughly 8 years ago. Jungle tends to be very HARD sounding, the harder the better. The bass usually gives it away these days - in Jungle you hear that big, big distorted fucker, and the drums are usually pretty brutal aswell.
Drum and Bass is a bit more recent, and tends to be much cleaner, maybe with more real musical influences, jazz is the main one. LTJ Bukem is a Drum and Bass producer - it's just a bit more chilled.
I just love the beat that they use in both of the above. It is so simple, yet so brilliant.
As I said it is just all music, if like it, listen to it.
CHEERS
Message 11/14 27-Oct-00 @ 04:30 AM - The difference between it ALL!!!!
Breakbeats go a bit different. The beat structure is exactly what it says Broken beats. Boom Cha Boom boom Cha boom cha boom...etc. The normal breakbeat music is clocked at about 130 bpms and it is pretty recognizable by the "Break it down" or "Get Fresh" and other cliche samples.
Drum n Bass is a form of breakbeat that EVOLVED (that word being the BEST way to describe dnb) It is breakbeats but sped up to about 160 bpms with the basslines going about 80 bpms. Now the distinct sound of drum n bass (or otherwise called jungle: and no there is no difference) is the snare. A good snare can make any drum n bass song in my opinion. Then you got the sounds on top which makes the difference.
The three basic electronic MAIN genre's are HOUSE, BREAKBEAT, and DRUM N BASS. Now there is downtempo, atmospheric, and a lot of other experimental styles. The hard part is pointing out the main SUBGENRES of the main genres. Quick breakdown of drum n bass genres:
Atmospheric- Exactly how it sounds.
Tech-step-Very techno influenced dnb with lots of analog sounds stretched out. Basically sounds like a video game getting mad at you but I love the shit and a lot of people do to.
Hard-step- Harder drum n bass with a distorted sound about it.
Jump-up - Very bouncy basslines and catchy samples on top. Aphrodite is very predominate with this style even though it sucks!
Those are just the main ones right now but there is like 15 different sub-genres of drum n bass.
You just got to listen and take these guidelines to your ears.
Peace.
Michael
[dj grip]
Message 12/14 27-Oct-00 @ 03:21 PM - RE: Now here's a goofyass question...
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Message 14/14 30-Oct-00 @ 03:57 AM - RE: Now here's a goofyass question...
note that in DnB and BreakBeats, the Snare
usually stays on Beats 2 and 4, but
not always.
With House, I think its a Closed HiHat on the 2nd
and 4th beat, with a Bass Drum on all 4 beats.
BJT
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