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Original Message 1/23 05-Jun-00 @ 07:29 PM - Acid lines
right now it's pretty much hit and miss I randomly step program my sequencer untill i hear somthing I like then tweak the slides accents fx etc. where i run into a problem is finding a complimentary line to go with it any tips on how to develop these patterns would be greatly apriciated. any help with getting good sounds would be nice I'm always open to new Ideas
my kit includes ensoniq asr-x yamaha cs1x and pc running cakewalk 5.0 thanx in advance
Andy
Message 3/23 07-Jun-00 @ 07:27 PM - RE: Acid lines
then just fiddle with velocity and gate time in different bars to give some variation(it works for me,but don't use it as a lead,just have it going low in the background)
Message 5/23 13-Jun-00 @ 09:48 AM - RE: Acid lines
You'll get acidlines with neither funk nor soul if you use them.
Also, a lot of *real* (not car commercial) acid lines use notes that are harmonically off... drop a 5th to a tritone, drop a 7th to a minor 7th but use the major 3rd etc.
Message 7/23 13-Jun-00 @ 03:41 PM - RE: Acid lines
and if any of you guys want to lay down a wicked acid tune, just try doing it in 3/4 time, or using 3-bar 4/4 patterns... stop being so damn predictable, keep it fresh... and who said lack of soul was a bad thing?
Message 8/23 13-Jun-00 @ 06:37 PM - RE: Acid lines
Message 9/23 14-Jun-00 @ 10:46 AM - RE: Acid lines
i know what you mean, but at the same time it's not like i TRY to analyze shit, you just can't help hearing it (i guess you could plug your ears)... i mean on all those 303 lines, its frustrating that the intervals will just pop into my head cause i'd rather not know...
anyway i'd really like hearing from acid-heads, i still think it's some of the best shit there is, so far from crap like plain, old house...
and yes, i looooove lsd... it's been a year or two (sorta got scary), i wish there was still pure stuff around, now it's all fucking windex.
Message 10/23 14-Jun-00 @ 01:14 PM - RE: Acid lines
cheers.
Message 11/23 14-Jun-00 @ 02:09 PM - RE: Acid lines
i'm not some idiot, i just think that fighting on ANY side of the "war" does nothing but give credibility to it, instead of exposing it as a pathetic sham.
and yeah, i was just looking at the technosaurus stuff a while ago (the cyclodon's actually what i meant by analogue sequencer, though there are some wicked-ass ones by TBS and analogue solutions... the latter are modulars though so it doesn't look like i'm affording that any time soon)... don't have the cash tho.
in case you didn't understand (i don't want to drag the whole thing into this thread either), i'm not pro-cop (or anti-cop -- you should really visit england and check out their police force... the thing is in the states, it's a different mentality, it's a more market-driven thing, so you get fucking asshole pigs, because if you're not rich you're not a person... that shit doesn't happen (as much) elsewhere because there's more of an infrastructure, a comunity, people treating other people like people. maybe you can't conceive of something like this actually existing, but it does. while you guys were busy trashing the communists, you didn't realize that being stridently anti-socialist also has anti-social repercussions -- when people aren't linked (through taxes or whatever) to each other, its much harder to get them to actually care about each other, cause they're in effect isolated. this is why you're so scared of your cops and need guns to "level" the playing field -- if you weren't all such fucking selfish, "our way is the right way" assholes, this never would have happened... you made your bed and now you're stuck in it.
the reason i have such a problem with it is, as a canadian, i see more and more of your frankly gross attitudes filter up here daily... here in toronto its cutbacks cutbacks cutbacks in terms of government, and we have to do this to compete with your economy because you guys are way more powerful. why? because your government doesn't care about anything but power. there's no community, no support -- it's like sweatshops, unethical and inhumane, but when considered only in terms of the market, very "efficient". then you can undercut your competitor's prices, cause they have much higher overhead costs -- after all, they're supporting the people that work for them, providing an infrastructure, which is expensive.
so to keep from being mexicanized by you fucking ignorant assholes, we have to keep adopting increasingly "american" policies... in ontario, the government's privatizing things left right and center, and as a result everything's going downhill, poverty and crime rises, while the rich get richer.
the solution is not to win any war, but to stop and realize that the problems you and i are encountering are inherent in the system. it's not like revolutions, etc. will ever happen, they don't even need to happen. the only thing necessary to overthrow the current balance of power in the states is education -- if you were all high school honour students, you wouldn't take any of the shit that gets fed to you. frankly i don't see this ever happening, considering you'd all rather just drink beer, get fat and fuck your lives away.
Message 12/23 14-Jun-00 @ 03:20 PM - RE: Acid lines
Message 14/23 14-Jun-00 @ 03:51 PM - RE: Acid lines
seriously, no hard feelings, i'll smoke you a fat one if you make it up here... don't think i can really help you with that though, don't exactly have inside connectiont to the underground railroad or anything...
anyway, i think i've learnt enough in my few years of post-guitar electronic producition to know that nothing you could tell me beyond the very basics is gonna help me learn/progress, cause i need to find my own personal style, and when i do i know i'll be able to take it somewhere... well maybe hope's a better word.
p.s - yeah, everytime i see anything about your elections i just feel genuinely sad, because i really can't beleive those two morons are the only options available. it's frankly one of the more depressing thoughts to dwell on, cause is it ever gonna get better?
Message 15/23 14-Jun-00 @ 04:39 PM - RE: Acid lines
Message 16/23 14-Jun-00 @ 06:20 PM - RE: Acid lines
of course.The Acid talk is usually over in 303 chat.Let's keep the politrix off those threadz though
Message 17/23 15-Jun-00 @ 08:52 AM - RE: Acid lines
o/d, totally, i remember on this tune, um... fuck, i don't know, "acid wiss '1'" or something, DJ ____ (i forget, sorry), fairly lo-tek track, but there was just this amazing superlow pulsing... it could have been anything, just really deep and dark, with that slight hi-end bite that makes it noticable....
anyway, my kit right now is 3 12bits(w30, tx16w X2), a crap-ass 303 clone (the MAM/FAT one... not really good for 303, but still useful i guess.), a korg polysix, and SCI split-8... i'm not just doing acid (otherwise i would've probably tried for something x0x), but i was wondering if anyone had tips, just in terms of patch programming and stuff... i'm not a beginner or anything, and i sort of know what i'm doing in other styles, but acid is something i've always loved but been too scared of to try (all my attempts thus far have lacked the driving-urgent necessity, darkness too...)
anyway thanks
Message 18/23 28-Jun-00 @ 02:49 PM - RE: Acid lines
Message 19/23 29-Jun-00 @ 07:46 PM - RE: Acid lines
ciggaretts are leaga for the same reason It's alright that I've been hooked on the cancer sticks since I was 14 but god forbid I smoke a doobie in the privacy of my own home. I haven't smoked in 2 months because I have a random drug test at work sometime in the next 2 months. It makes me sick I could write a friggen book about the bullshit the us govt. feeds us.......Oh and by the way it's just not as much fun making music with out the green stuff......I liked to come home after work smoke a joint and bang on the keyboard......I am a bad criminal I know a very bad man a menace to socioty I should be out and the bar in my flannel shirt rocking out to country and western drinking myself stupid swerving my way home to beat my wife (if I don't kill someone on the way) God bless America
peace to y'all
By the way Iv'e ended up with some good acid lines by plugging my drum patterns into synth parts
Message 20/23 30-Jun-00 @ 11:15 PM - RE: Acid lines
bout that billion to Columbia for them helicopterz they
need to smuggle whoops I mean stop that cocaine and we
gotta keep that there communism from spreadin nort
Message 21/23 01-Jul-00 @ 09:47 PM - RE: Acid lines
Message 22/23 01-Jul-00 @ 11:09 PM - RE: Acid lines
Message 23/23 02-Jul-00 @ 11:22 AM - RE: Acid lines
Papa Garcia (London)
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