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Subject: Mackie alternatives
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Original Message 1/24 29-Mar-02 @ 12:38 AM - Mackie alternatives
I suggested the GHOST - what say you?...
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 2/24 29-Mar-02 @ 03:20 AM - RE: Mackie alternatives
they are going for $800-900 all day long used over here (thats mixer, automation, recall, 2 efx units, compressors / eq every channel etc)
jamey
Message 3/24 29-Mar-02 @ 05:28 AM - RE: Mackie alternatives
he need an 8-bus?
Message 4/24 29-Mar-02 @ 07:29 AM - RE: Mackie alternatives
Message 5/24 29-Mar-02 @ 11:02 AM - RE: Mackie alternatives
and the Ghost looks nicer
Message 6/24 29-Mar-02 @ 12:33 PM - RE: Mackie alternatives
still nice. Very light feel in the ones I've used, though, like the contacts were not all that solid, and the faders seemed highly vulnerable to dust and smoke. In other words, it seemed a lot more fragile than a mackie, and probably would not last nearly as long under the same conditions, so you'd have to really baby it. I've never seen a Ghost ten years old, and still working, if that says anything. Mackies and tapcos from longer than that still work, and Mackie had and probably still has their repair policy, which is killer. My buddy had his 1402 sent back, and the deal was $100 cleans and fixes anything, even if it means essentially replacing the entire mixer, which it rarely does. Dunno what it would be for a 24/8 but probably not too much more for a total refurb later. SoundCraft didn't have any policy like that when I was selling them. How many times do you want to pay for a mixer?
Ape
Message 7/24 29-Mar-02 @ 02:54 PM - RE: Mackie alternatives
Message 8/24 29-Mar-02 @ 06:40 PM - RE: Mackie alternatives
Message 10/24 29-Mar-02 @ 11:17 PM - RE: Mackie alternatives
British eq's seem to have a sharper curve, db/octave wise, and a little bit different placement in the bands. American boards in general have a warmer, more rounded sounding EQ. I good way to illustrate it is by putting the sound of an 808 kick drum with the decay all the way up, and the tune at about halfway, and volume on the orange DOT, accent all the way up. Classic sound, you can find the approximate sample anywhere. Put that though the board flat, and then play with it. DAT, MD, or CD, all of them will give you a close enough sound if you're A/B'ing the EQs. You'll hear the diffence the first time you bring up the bass. It's very reminiscent of the general preference in posteriors in women when comparing European and American. This does not go for all, I assure you, BUT I more often than not find that guys in the states like them a little more soft and rounded, and the Western Europeans like them a bit smaller and firmer. I hope that this clarifies things a bit. Other than this, it's just words, and only your ears will truly explain the difference.
Ape
Message 11/24 30-Mar-02 @ 01:17 AM Edit: 30-Mar-02 | 01:19 AM - RE: Mackie alternatives
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ha ha ha - what a comparison! chuckle - so um... if you use an all NEVE rack then you "like a big butt y'all!!" ??
heh heh
Ghosts aint been around 10 years tho have they??
have you seen the new soundcraft dig mixer?.. looks flipping TASTY!! (image) - 32/8
it's got 2 x lexicon fx units in it and also has a mode to work as a synth controller transmitting midi CC's for controller use!!! - wow!
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 12/24 30-Mar-02 @ 11:38 AM - RE: Mackie alternatives
The 328XD does look nice. Still, kinda reminds me of an elephant talking to John Holmes, saying "Cute, but can you eat peanuts with it?", next to a D8B.
Ape
Message 13/24 30-Mar-02 @ 08:28 PM - RE: Mackie alternatives
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 15/24 30-Mar-02 @ 10:10 PM - RE: Mackie alternatives
Assuming your not dealing with elec. music, i rather go for the soundcraft (c.over), or the ghost.
Message 16/24 31-Mar-02 @ 12:09 AM - RE: Mackie alternatives
Message 17/24 31-Mar-02 @ 03:59 PM - RE: Mackie alternatives
Ape
Message 18/24 31-Mar-02 @ 04:22 PM - RE: Mackie alternatives
maybe i just misunderstood the guy?
Message 19/24 31-Mar-02 @ 05:47 PM - RE: Mackie alternatives
Yes the d8b sounds really good: very close to the warmness of the analog sound; the fully automation works very smouthly; but I get better results with some dbx Eqs and some dbx gates, than with the internal one.
Message 20/24 01-Apr-02 @ 05:37 PM - RE: Mackie alternatives
Ape
Message 22/24 17-Apr-02 @ 06:56 AM - RE: Mackie alternatives
Message 23/24 17-Apr-02 @ 04:21 PM - RE: Mackie alternatives
Ape
Message 24/24 17-Apr-02 @ 08:12 PM - RE: Mackie alternatives
I will agree that the Mackies are nigh indestructible; I've owned a half-dozen of them over the years without a single problem. They are good for live sound, but they aren't so great in the studio (in my opinion, anyway). I've never used Behringer or Spirit, so I can't say much about them; I generally try to avoid that range of mixer based on the opinions of people I trust. I'm not a UK mixer-phile by any means (after all, I use Japanese digital), I'm just saying that I've seen a lot of nice sounding analog systems come out of the UK and I tend to assume that if I pay decent money I'm likely to get something I'll like the sound of.
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